<unseen> catch 22
<unseen> we have tried that in the past and nobody comes.
<LothAR> well i think 20 per lan is a good price
<LothAR> noot 10
<|2usty> true, i wouldn't pay anymore for a sausage and bread and some airconditioning
<unseen> what makes you become a member then?
<|2usty> atmosphere.....
<|2usty> no wait...
<|2usty> insentive to become a member?
<unseen> yeah
<|2usty> would have to be a good venue
<unseen> surely DGA and all that we have discussed cant be all about the venue
<|2usty> personally i think that if the venue can accomodate more than 40 people and not exclude anybody that doesn't "register" on time etc...then it would gain more interest again
<unseen> and to do that we have to hire tables. and chairs and there is another expense
<|2usty> sponsorship is a big issue as well but it's not something that can't be sorted with a bit of
PR work and less procrastination
<unseen> I mean if your happy to pay a fair bit more, and 30 - 50 people like wise, then venue isnt a problem
<|2usty> what about a byo chair venue anyway?
<unseen> byo table as well?
<|2usty> why not/>
<|2usty> ?^
<unseen> ok next lan you bring a table and a chair.
* |2usty will
<unseen> lol
<|2usty> =p
<unseen> :p
<|2usty> how hard would it be to get some sort of slush fund going from the cover charge to eventually buy some tables and chairs?
<|2usty> even just some tables, because if someone can't byo their own chair then there's something wrong
<unseen> not hard at all .. in regards to money earnt per DGA. its around $75
<|2usty> cool
<|2usty> so it's possible
<unseen> so to but some tables, decent tables looking at $50 - $100 or so. so yeah a few lans anyways. that is if we dont have to replace any broken hardware or replace things here and there
<kate> hi
<|2usty> hai
<unseen> hi
<|2usty> ok, so really we need a large venue at the end of the day
<unseen> no
<|2usty> no/
<|2usty> ?
<unseen> DGA will not pull enough people to cover the costs.
<|2usty> ok well, if we want more than 40 ppl to turn up we need a larger venue
<|2usty> another catch 22
<unseen> hence we are starting small 40 people lans. to get the "slush fund" up so that we can then look at expanding
<kate> not sure there's enough interest at the moment to warrant more then 40 anyway
<unseen> DGA isnt what it used to be, that a 150 lan a month is possible every month. Once people look past this, they will see that new things have to be tried.
<LothAR> My issue is that its been limited to 40 people, and others who never had a chance to register intime get knocked back and can't go and only 30 people rock up...
<LothAR> not really a question per say, just a view
<unseen> that comes down to the gamers themselves. If people dont come (we have a list) we did have a implementation that we were going to introduce. Be it register and not show up to 3 lans, you wont be able to register for the next 5.
<unseen> 5 lans being half a year of DGA lans.
<|2usty> how many member do you need for a youth grant?????
<LothAR> personally i don't agree, but ok np
<kate> well what do you suggest
<unseen> there is no set limit, however the youth grant works with under 16yr old members.
* |2usty was under the impression that youth was 16 -14
<|2usty> 16 - 24 rather
<unseen> the bigger the list the more it is looked at .. due to the last committee having no record of members we are having to start again
<unseen> under 16 is what got us the grant last time, and from what ive been told this is what needs to be achieved. a record of our under 16 youth members.
<|2usty> ok
<|2usty> with the venues how many square meters is like a 40 - 50 people lan require
<unseen> no idea. the tables we use are 3m x 1m .. and sit 3 .. however never worked out the square meter requirements
<unseen> normally we will inspect and venue and from previous experience can tell what we can fit and how.
<|2usty> any idea how big the bride club was
<unseen> no idea.
<unseen> didnt measure it, however we based it off table size and how many tables we could fit in. And due to having used the venue a while ago it was easy to work out the numbers
<unseen> is there anything else anybody would like to know?
<OverDrive> Is it true that everyone here is joining the GU CSS server tonight? - that is my first and final question...
<kate> no

<unseen> yes
<unseen> after this
<|2usty> ok..so have you looked at Parap primary school at all?
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<unseen> the gym there?
<kate> omg neotheo, run away!
<neotheo> ohhhh
<OverDrive> your no fun kate

<neotheo> thats not ncie
<|2usty> is the gym airconditioned?
<neotheo> ok...fill me in
<unseen> most school gyms that we have priced are too much .. $40/h etc
<unseen> neo - read the transcript when i post it
<neotheo> ok
<neotheo> jsut pm me it
<|2usty> have you priced the Parap gym
<LothAR> or nungalinya college
<LothAR> Im assuming there has been dga's there before
<kate> there havent that I can recall
<unseen> pretty sure we priced the parap gym when we did the rounds of all the school and they all reported back the same figures.
<kate> but then again, I dont know where dga 1 and 2 were held..
<LothAR> what about itallian club? anyone looked their ?
<unseen> not sure on the italian club, recolection nobody has mentioned it.
<neotheo> carlton

<|2usty> or....does it really have to be airconditioned, because they've just closed down the Bunnings store in Cas and Stuart park
<|2usty> and it would be as good as any venue just to get started again
<unseen> yes
<kate> think of a room full of computers and people
<kate> and how hot it got at the greek school even with air con at times
<|2usty> yeah i know....but if it meant getting things off the ground again....
<neotheo> think of the sweaty nerd balls next to u....are u sure u want nbo aircon?
<unseen> it is off the ground
<|2usty> i try not to think of anyones balls
<kate> its just not practical to have ~40 people in darwin without aircon
<neotheo> yeh, i ujsut watched jackass 2 at work
<|2usty> teehee
<|2usty> that's pro-active
<|2usty> ok...so we need air-con
<kate> and sufficient power
<|2usty> latest news just in....we have a possible venue....
<neotheo> ....
<LothAR> lol\
<|2usty> it's a xcout hall
<|2usty> scout hall*
<unseen> and that would be
<unseen> we have lots of possible venues
<|2usty> the venue is yet to be announced but it has been "ok'd"
<|2usty> Kronk will keep us posted
<unseen> im sure he will tell us in due time
<|2usty> will find out potential venues tomorrow and it will most likely be a 40 person venue
<LothAR> 40+
<|2usty> mhm
<unseen> DGA will be running 40 person lans until a stage were we get 40 people showing up consistently
* LothAR Rusty Kronk Elmato Rip and Jinx are all in the same room
* neotheo agrees
<OverDrive> hey kronk and wireless guys

<|2usty> hai
<OverDrive> gonna play css with us tonight?

<neotheo> heya
<|2usty> =p
<neotheo> how was cs last night?
<LothAR> boring
<OverDrive> i wasnt there - nuff said
<LothAR> Eater Kept owning everyone
<unseen> so is that it? any more questions
<|2usty> nor i
* LothAR is thinking about it
<|2usty> yeah i have heaps more questions...
<LothAR> umm why is the Admins like on a seperate tables
<LothAR> segrated away from all
<|2usty> in 1954....where did Dawn Fraser finish in the 100 meter sprints at the commonwealth games?
<neotheo> so we are easy to seek help from
<neotheo> and easier to monitor the lan
<OverDrive> dawn wasnt at those games.
<unseen> Admins sit on a seperate table so that people can identify us easier, its not segragation
<LothAR> well why was the only time that one of you came over to say hi and bye is when you kicked us out\
<kate> did you go and say hi to them?

<neotheo> thx kate
<LothAR> i sure did
<unseen> I didnt come say hello as I say hello to those I know, and Lothar, I dont know you.
<unseen> its that simple and thats why i didnt, cant speak for the others
<LothAR> ok then
* LothAR is off to play wireless
<unseen> think that wraps it up.
<neotheo> i haevza question
<kate> have a game of cs for me od

<neotheo> do i have bad grammer
<unseen> go
<unseen> There will be another DGA Q&A next year, and you are more then happy to post on the forums .. Thanks for coming and have a great night.
<kate> woot, see you this time next year
<neotheo> lol
<neotheo> seya
<unseen> Q&A closed.