Thread: Liberal Comunication Policy- Your thoughts?

Did anyone watch the live broadcast today when they were releasing the policy?
I had to go to uni half way through it, so does anyone have link to somewhere where i can stream it?

Also the debate was also on around lunch time between conroy and his shadow equalivant. I hope these will be avalible on iview.

It sure was amusing seeing the shadow coms minister sweating when asked questions by the press/media regarding the policy.

At this point in time, it looks pretty crap but i wont be able to see the full specifics until i get home tonight.

So what are your thoughts on it?


Coalition NBN to "optimise" and lease Telstra network - Telco/ISP - Technology - News - iTnews.com.au

After going over news stories regarding the policy I'm glad that the coalition made my vote easier this year...

Maybe a dose of reality. I would have liked to see a little more 'future planning' involved, however it's a more realistic measure considering the economic situation of Australia.
We're not at a time when we can afford 45billion + dollars on Telecommunications.

FFS Kagetsu - you don't have to blindly support everything these pricks come out with. This is clearly not one of those times.

Libs lack vision for digital future: Coalition | The Australian

Originally Posted by Kagetsu

Maybe a dose of reality. I would have liked to see a little more 'future planning' involved, however it's a more realistic measure considering the economic situation of Australia.
We're not at a time when we can afford 45billion + dollars on Telecommunications.

McKinsey Study: NBN not good for private investors - Senator Stephen Conroy, Senator Scott Ludlam, National Broadband Network (NBN), Minister for Broadband, McKinsey Implementation study, Communications and the Digital Economy, Australian Greens - AR
The study said a worst-case scenario for the build would cost $42.8 billion. Taxpayers will pay at least $26bn within the first six years, of which $18.3bn will be forked out over the next four years.

That's a project that will last over a decade, it isn't that much when you consider we will spend $115B on social security and welfare in just one year.

National Broadband Network Implementation Study | Department of Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy

• Post-construction, NBN Co will have strong free cash flows and margins, with a very high EBITDA margin estimated at 75 percent.
• Under most plausible scenarios, NBN Co will generate returns in excess of Govermment's cost of borrowing. If a lower-return scenario start to emerge, NBN Co can use the repetitive nature of the project to drive efficiencies, or Government can be more flexible on policy settings to improve the expected return.

ugh - ignore the fact a chunk of that figure was spent already. continuing to hamstring businesses with shitful net connections is not fucking prudent - financially or otherwise. 1mbp/s upload speeds are utterly woeful for any business with more than one office space, and on the whole, the majority of them can't afford their own fibre runs to connect the locations. Australian web hosts can't compete with overseas hosts (hell, I can't even compete with a similar sized webhost business based in Sydney or Brissie because of the disparity in available solutions within the country).

Cloud computing is becoming really big, and rightly so - it's an excellent concept that can allow even small business to benefit from buckets of computing power for their internal applications without shelling out a fortune on hardware - BUT shite upload speeds make it painful to work with for most organisations - even those on ADSL2+. You can't deny better business systems generally = better productivity = growth.

by NOT getting this NBN up and running NOW we're really holding our own economic growth back - we will fast reach the point where, compared with overseas companies, local businesses may as well go back to pen and paper ledgers for their operations.

edit: and CONSPIRACY THEORY! higher bandwidth makes it harder for the Russian Mafia to racketeer the shit out of our online businesses ;P

Cisco Visual Networking Index: Forecast and Methodology, 2009-2014* [Visual Networking Index] - Cisco Systems

Originally Posted by Cisco

Annual global IP traffic will exceed three-quarters of a zettabyte (767 exabytes) in four years. Global IP traffic grew 45 percent during 2009 to reach an annual run rate of 176 exabytes per year or 15 exabytes per month. In 2014, global IP traffic will reach 767 exabytes per year or 64 exabytes per month. The average monthly traffic in 2014 will be equivalent to 32 million people streaming Avatar in 3D, continuously for the entire month.

Once upon a time Australia was at or near the top in terms of communication infrastructure, what happened was the sector was 100% privatised, with no real competition in communication infrastructure our position relative to the rest of the world will continue to drop. Telstra competes to be the best in this country and government run enterprises like the NBN will endeavour to compete internationally.

OD, I definantly do not support everything they stand for, I'm quiet happy to discuss policy with anybody.
I firmly believe the NBN IS a good idea... but now is not the time. Everybody wants faster Internet, but gung ho attitude right now is not what's on call.

In addition the mining industry super tax right now is just such a bad idea. They were key business holding up Australia through the crisis, and were feeling the pinch all through that time, with significant drops in public investment (shares) and dwindling interest from international coorporations. Yet the Rudd came along insisting now is the right time?
EDIT: I should also add, I do believe the mining companies need to have a higher tax, but 40% is just rediculous, and especially now as business is starting to ramp up.

Patience is a virtue, one which the Labor government lacks any kind of head for. It has to be now, and it has to be grand as well.

the mining tax is not 40% anymore - it's 30%, isn't applied across the board, and it's applied on stupidly high profits. regarding the mining industry saving us, I've heard as much argument for that as I've heard against it - so I'll take that statement with a grain of salt 'til it's demonstrated either way.

also, the NBN DOES have to be now. if we wait any longer we might as well not bother doing it at all, ever. the time required to pull a job of this scale off is massively against us. as it stands we'll still be behind when it's completed, but we wont be anywhere near as far behind as we would be if we didn't do anything til Abbott was educated enough to understand that computer mice don't need computer cheese.