World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King

30 public posts in this discussion.

Post 1

Announced today at Blizzardcon.

www.worldofwarcraft.com/wrath

Tasty.

Post 2

not sure if I like...

smells of swg :(

Post 3

Smells of AoC if anything,siege warfare and destructible buildings. They did the same shit with vanguard announcing flying mounts. Surpised they didn't steal shit from Warhammer.

Post 4

I don't whats with all this "they steal everything" shit the ideas have been around since the middle ages ffs it's not like its copyright.

Post 5

When you play more MMO's then just WoW you'll see that it's just a big patchwork job.

Post 6

Sure. It couldnt possibly be because every MMO ever made is now compared to WOW.

Post 7

...only because WoW has taken elements from other MMO's that worked and threw them in the same basket.

Post 8

i reckon it looks awesome :D cant wait.

Post 9

Quote from PapaDom;316538:
...only because WoW has taken elements from other MMO's that worked and threw them in the same basket.

if they all worked why is wow so much better? And why wouldnt other companies be doing just the same thing if it were that easy? Every game has stolen ideas from everywhere ffs, its not like anything is original anymore.

Post 10

Quote from HeReTiC;316612:
if they all worked why is wow so much better? And why wouldnt other companies be doing just the same thing if it were that easy? Every game has stolen ideas from everywhere ffs, its not like anything is original anymore.

Wow is so much better because it took the elements that worked. So rather than have a game of 1xWorking element and 9xNon working elements, you have one with 10xworking elements.

Exaggeration yeah but you get the idea.

Post 11

wow has so many shit elements though. I don't know why it works... I think it's because it took over a market which didn't have any real competition. Now it's a household name. For example THE IPOD. There was heaps wrong with the IPOD (short battery life, scratched screens on the nano etc) yet for somehow it seems... Apple can do no wrong!!

I'd like to see how WOW fares when a worthy adversary appears.... warhammer!!! and everquest is not worthy.

Post 12

More like Snorehammer amirite? Seriously all the games that "were the end of WoW" to date have taken the mechanics and elements the WoW devs specifically left out cause they are horrible and try to use them.

Post 13

I don't think you can compare the IPod to wow, there were NO good mp3 players AT ALL when the ipod came out...there were and still are plenty of good mmo's out, they just don't come close to how much fun wow was/is.

If it was easy as "Omg lets just copy everyones ideas" 9 million people wouldnt subscribe to the game, and there would be 15 other software companies doing exactly the same thing.

It'll be like CS and slowly slowly die, WoTLK might give it an injection (See CS:S) but eventually it'll die down.

Post 14

Quote from Wrathlon;316624:
More like Snorehammer amirite?

lol so wrong, oh wait you play on a carebear sever. ;)

Post 15

Ill enjoy it, but bloody hell i ll just reach lvl 70 and it will come out just you watch.

Post 16

I can't wait to make a DK, and the new zones look really nice. Dalaran...

This, if anything, wanted me to play WoW instead of going to warhammer.

Post 17

Wow does have a ton of shitty elements to it like SperO said.

The major shitty elements in WoW that I see now is:

A) After hitting 70, raiding your first dungeon, BoE's and BoP's from 5man dungeons become useless
B) The only way to get better gear outside of a raid is through 1: Rep Grinding and then 2: Getting your key and doing a heroic
C) If you get up to SSC, every piece of gear outside a raid becomes useless
D) Nobody quests together, game gets boring and lonely and all there is to do is PvP, grind rep and farm which gets boring easily.
E) Wtb FMV's and in-game graphic movies and somewhat of a storyline maybe? -_- The only thing I find that makes the game more interesting is the Black Temple music, all the music through the game in all zones is just freaking lame and no excitement to it.

WoW doesnt exactly give that "Excite" feeling when exploring or traveling in a same area that you've already been in like you get in Oblivion, or Never Winter Nights 2. Theres never any little thing you've missed, no little secrets like you do in other RPG games. Besides all that the way how you move your character, use your skills and talents to fight in the game is great compared to what I've seen in other RPGs.

Guildwars still holds the better PvP system in my belief.

In my opinion if WoW is to be better, a great game with this new expansion coming out, I would say, BRING IN THE NAXXRAMAS TEAM AGAIN! and the Black Temple team too. Naxxramas is a great dungeon and is always fun, and Black Temple even though I havnt cleared through all of it yet with my guild is already and still exciting.

Post 18

Quote from NewbiTLorD;317331:
Wow does have a ton of shitty elements to it like SperO said.

The major shitty elements in WoW that I see now is:

A) After hitting 70, raiding your first dungeon, BoE's and BoP's from 5man dungeons become useless
B) The only way to get better gear outside of a raid is through 1: Rep Grinding and then 2: Getting your key and doing a heroic
C) If you get up to SSC, every piece of gear outside a raid becomes useless
D) Nobody quests together, game gets boring and lonely and all there is to do is PvP, grind rep and farm which gets boring easily.
E) Wtb FMV's and in-game graphic movies and somewhat of a storyline maybe? -_- The only thing I find that makes the game more interesting is the Black Temple music, all the music through the game in all zones is just freaking lame and no excitement to it.

WoW doesnt exactly give that "Excite" feeling when exploring or traveling in a same area that you've already been in like you get in Oblivion, or Never Winter Nights 2. Theres never any little thing you've missed, no little secrets like you do in other RPG games. Besides all that the way how you move your character, use your skills and talents to fight in the game is great compared to what I've seen in other RPGs.

Guildwars still holds the better PvP system in my belief.

In my opinion if WoW is to be better, a great game with this new expansion coming out, I would say, BRING IN THE NAXXRAMAS TEAM AGAIN! and the Black Temple team too. Naxxramas is a great dungeon and is always fun, and Black Temple even though I havnt cleared through all of it yet with my guild is already and still exciting.

I have to say, I really disagree with you. There's a huge storyline behind wow, it just seems like you haven't read it. I have no idea why you'd want to keep instance blues if you began raiding, and there's plenty to do if you want to group together. How would it be if blizzard forced people to group and you just had to sit there looking for someone else so you can level?

Post 19

Quote from NewbiTLorD;317331:
A) After hitting 70, raiding your first dungeon, BoE's and BoP's from 5man dungeons become useless

It's always been that way though - it's how you progress through the game. Better gear allows for harder fights.
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B) The only way to get better gear outside of a raid is through 1: Rep Grinding and then 2: Getting your key and doing a heroic

I don't disagree here at all.
Well, except for crafted Tailoring items and Season2 weapons.
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C) If you get up to SSC, every piece of gear outside a raid becomes useless

See point #1 ^^

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D) Nobody quests together, game gets boring and lonely and all there is to do is PvP, grind rep and farm which gets boring easily.

I know the feeling. I don't particularly enjoy PvP and I can't stand farming stuff. It's a major reason why i have so many alts. That said, I prefer to farm instances for xp rather than quest solo. But alas, nobodies running instances pre-bc these days and I have to rely on the help and favour of my guildies to zerg me through them. :p
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E) Wtb FMV's and in-game graphic movies and somewhat of a storyline maybe? -_- The only thing I find that makes the game more interesting is the Black Temple music, all the music through the game in all zones is just freaking lame and no excitement to it.

I was hoping for FMV's when the game was first released. Like, after you kill a dungeon boss, you get treated to an ingame rendered custscene or an FMV. But they didnt include it :(
There is a pretty rich storyline to it though, if you read all your quest text.
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Guildwars still holds the better PvP system in my belief.

Agree.

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In my opinion if WoW is to be better, a great game with this new expansion coming out, I would say, BRING IN THE NAXXRAMAS TEAM AGAIN! and the Black Temple team too. Naxxramas is a great dungeon and is always fun, and Black Temple even though I havnt cleared through all of it yet with my guild is already and still exciting.

They certainly did a good job as far as fight-tuning, in naxx. They are readjusting Naxx for 25man though :)

Post 20

i'm wearing socks and i like pie.

Post 21

Hey me too

Post 22

Quote from Evil;316626:
lol so wrong, oh wait you play on a carebear sever. ;)

Dont make me give you a carebear stare!!!

Post 23

I know and have read WoW's huge story line, its just I wanna see the NPC's from the Storyline getting into some action with ya, in the same instance or something, all I've seen so far is Akama and Maeiv in Black Temple >< I wanna see like, Tyranda or Shando get into some boss fights and scenes :( but I guess theres always this upcoming expansion for that kinda stuff :p

Post 24

I want to see Tyrande and Maeiv get it on.

Post 25

New dances?

WoW is cancer.

Post 26

Quote from catsup3;317495:
New dances?

WoW is cancer.

I for one welcome our new cancerous overlords.

Post 27

Quote from Wrathlon;317501:
I for one welcome our new cancerous overlords.

+1

Post 29

When did this become a maths lesson?

Post 30

thats some complex algebra right there folks