F1 breakaway series announced.

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Post 1

FOTA just announced they will be launching a breakaway series.
autosport.com - F1 News: Teams to launch breakaway series

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"These teams therefore have no alternative other than to commence the preparation for a new Championship which reflects the values of its participants and partners. This series will have transparent governance, one set of regulations, encourage more entrants and listen to the wishes of the fans, including offering lower prices for spectators worldwide, partners and other important stakeholders.

Wow.. now is this a bluff to get further concessions from FIA? will they still be discussing options over the weekend?

Post 2

Holy shit.

Post 3

HOLY shit indeed, good on them, now lets get these guys to race at Adelaide again that would be great.

Post 4

FIA taking legal action against FOTA
autosport.com - F1 News: FIA to launch legal action against FOTA

Post 5

What a shit-storm.

Post 6

This has a long way to go yet.... Bernie is not going to let this happen, unless of course FOTA give him the media rights to the series..... who else can put on the show?

Post 7

I don't want F1 to turn into stock cars.

It's already gone backwards with engine rev cuts and reduced aero.

It seems nearly every race the laptimes will be a few seconds slower than the previous year.

I'm not seeing the increased overtaking envisioned. I'm just seeing cars struggling for back end grip and hitting rev limiters before any reasonable overtaking move can be attempted.

Post 8

Did you even watch the last race? Times being set were faster than last years.

At the start of the season there was indeed more overtaking, but the cars have already moved ahead and made the best of the restrictions - they're now fasting than anticipated, despite the efforts to slow them down.

As for grip - the Brawn's and Redbull's have had absolutely outstanding traction all season. BMW and Toyota also having great rides, from a hardware perspective, most races.

Post 9

OMG OMG OMFG !!!!

I really really want the breakaway to work now..... tee hee.

Schedule leaked for F1 breakaway series - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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A draft blueprint from the Formula One Teams Association showing a rival calendar of championship events has been leaked.

It lists Adelaide as its main race track in Australia, with no mention of Melbourne.

Post 10

Bah V8 Supercars is more fun to watch anyway.

Post 11

I hate V8s. If I had the choice I would rather watch nascar.

Post 12

I'll give you that, NASCAR is better again.

Post 13

V8 Supercars is f*cking shit. National level drivers beating around in modified family sedans.

Post 14

Modified family sedans? you are showing just how little you know there rec about the sport. Shame shame shame, you sound like OD when you talk to him about F1.

I also wouldn't knock the drivers or their skills. Max Wilson when he left (was dropped from F1) came over and raced in the V8s. Marcose Ambrose who dominated the series for three years is now racing in the highest grade of Nascar and doing very well too.

Post 15

They factually are highly modified production models. And they're not highly modified coupes or sports cars, they're highly modified sedans. There is no argument here - that's the reality. VE Commodore's or FG Falcon's, to be precise.

To argue that raises the question about how much you actually know about it. :P

Even NASCAR are tailor made vehicles. Unfortunately NASCAR is even shitter. Circle tracks, and all about the crashes - just like ice hockey is about the fights. If you remove those key elements from either of those sports, the spectator base would be instantly halved, if not more.

Post 16

One thing I didn't understand about Clipsal was why they had support catagories that would lap faster than the V8's such as the Porche's and Formula 3's, I wish the bogans didn't make the V8's so popular.

Post 17

Breakaway called off.
Seems FOTA, FIA and Bernie have come to an agreement.
Budget cap scrapped, existing teams to help the new teams.
autosport.com - F1 News: FOTA teams call off breakaway series

The full entry list is:

TEAM CONSTRUCTOR
SCUDERIA FERRARI MARLBORO FERRARI
VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES McLAREN MERCEDES
BMW SAUBER F1 TEAM BMW SAUBER
RENAULT F1 TEAM RENAULT
PANASONIC TOYOTA RACING TOYOTA
SCUDERIA TORO ROSSO STR TBA
RED BULL RACING RBR TBA
AT&T WILLIAMS WILLIAMS TOYOTA
FORCE INDIA F1 TEAM FORCE INDIA MERCEDES
BRAWN GP FORMULA ONE TEAM BRAWN TBA
CAMPOS META TEAM CAMPOS COSWORTH
MANOR GRAND PRIX MANOR COSWORTH
TEAM US F1 TEAM US F1 COSWORTH

Post 18

Wow... cool. I thought it would be weeks before this resolution. I guess Max's meeting with the World Motor Sport Council kind of pushed the issue.

If Max didn't give in, they would have removed him anyway.

Post 19

Correct.

Post 20

Peace deal keeps Melbourne GP safe

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The organisers of the Australian Formula One Grand Prix in Melbourne say a deal has been reached to ensure all major teams now compete at next year's event.

Some rebel teams had been threatening to start up a rival competition leaving the future of the official Grand Prix in doubt.

The Victorian Government said it would not pay for 'half an event'.

The Australian Grand Prix Corporation says there is an agreement between Formula One's governing body and the teams' association.

Post 21

The 'official Grand Prix' was never in doubt. Formula 1 would still be 'Formula 1' if the split happened.

If Melbourne decided it didn't want to host the changed 'Formula 1', then I doubt Formula 1 would care - the Formula 1 has already told Melbourne to become a night race or be removed from the calendar. Dusk was the compromise, but Melbourne will still lose the GP after its next agreement period if it at that stage it doesn't go under lights.

The peace deal between FIA and teams' association really has nothing to do with the Melbourne GP specifically, no more than any other race on the calendar. Plus the peace agreement is old news, now.

... and that's why I don't read the ABC for F1 news. :P

Post 22

As soon as the split wasn't on the cards Melbourne wasn't in any danger of losing the Australian GP. Which is a shame as it was the perfect excuse to get out of a deal in which they loose $45m a year in hosting it.

As rec says if they do not invest in a night race for the next agreement, a night race in and around homebush in NSW is already being looked at.