Court case against Newzbin starts up

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Post 1

20th Century Fox and Others vs Newzbin Ltd - Day 1
First day kicked off at 10:30am with the opposing barrister delivering his opening speech, which lasted about 3 hours. Apart from mostly being full of how evil we are, he explained, mostly for the Judge, Justice Kitchin, what Usenet is, what Newzbin is, what NZB files are, how they compare to hyperlinks [at great pains to try and convince him they are technically different], some accusations about our header fetching backend code [it's apparently designed to go looking for copyrighted stuff on Usenet specifically].

Our opening argument was blissfully short by comparison and stated only that we dispute nearly everything they say and we'll cover it in the evidence to come.

The second part of the day consisted of witnesses for the claimants, which for the most part were pretty insignificant - a couple of FACT agents who didn't have much to say under cross-examination apart from they did a half-assed job analysing our site.. Some junior lawyers who confirmed they had harvested data from our listings but didn't bother to check how much of it was actually under any form of copyright.

Their star of the show, an expert witness was cross-examined for the last hour, covering topics including the dangers of auto-opening NZB files [he admitted a malicious NZB file might be a virus and auto-opening it in a browser could lead to a user being infected by a virus], discussing the various reasons that binary headers and text-digest headers are treated separately in the backend [performance reasons, and they're handled differently until repors are created at the final step, at which point the two types of reports converge into one common database again].

Thankfully the Judge Justice Kitchin is remarkably on the ball and switched on - if nothing else this will be a very fair trial and already the opposing barrister has been pulled up on several points of contention - this Judge certainly won't blindly eat everything he's told by the MPA. on the other hand it doesn't mean he'll accept our arguments easily either.

Court adjourned at 4:30pm. The trial continues..

Newzbin - Login

Post 2

Newzbin loses.

High Court Finds Newzbin Liable For Copyright Infringement | TorrentFreak

Post 3

Only 4 days left on my Newzbin sub. Guess it's time to move to NzbMatrix.

Post 4

I want my 90p back!

:P

NZBMatrix works pretty well. The search feature sucks compared to Newzbin though.

Post 5

Indeed it does. And because of that, no automated downloads via RSS. :(

Post 6

they're clearing hundreds of thousands of dollars a year. expect them simply to relocate to another country.

Post 7

Quote from newzbin:

The next hearing in court is mid April. Until then we are required to implement a default policy of blocking movies and TV reports. These will need to be manually authorised by us before they are published. This is cumbersome and, we appreciate, deeply unwelcome. Rest easy that it is temporary and will only last until we can get into court or until we implement a less onerous automatic filter.

As of now registrations have been enabled - You will no longer need an invite to signup for a new account.

not sure if this has immediate effect or not.

Post 8

Good on em...

Quote:
In view of the, temporary, greatly reduced functionality of the site for many users we are freezing the credits of premium users. Any credits you currently have will remain at the current amount until further notice.

Post 9

Oh that's awesome.

Post 10

Looks like its all over.

Quote:
Newzbin Closed
Regrettably the Newzbin website has to close as a result of the legal action against us. More details here: Newzbin gossip

Post 12

Court case against Newzbin starts up

:(

Post 13

Court case against Newzbin starts up

Been using NzbMatrix for a while now. Definitely not as good, but if does the job. As far as I can see, it's the next best thing out there.

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Post 14

Apart from it's dodgy up and down API/RSS.

Post 15

Yeah they lost a server which ran the API-RSS last week and SABnzbd couldn't auto fetch. Very annyoying.

Post 16

2010-05-20 09:34:21.408855 SEARCH :: Unable to load RSS feed from NZBMatrix, skipping: [Errno socket error] [Errno 111] Connection refused
2010-05-20 09:34:42.112642 SEARCH :: Unable to load RSS feed from NZBMatrix, skipping: [Errno socket error] [Errno 111] Connection refused
2010-05-20 09:34:52.485886 SEARCH :: Unable to load RSS feed from NZBMatrix, skipping: [Errno socket error] [Errno 111] Connection refused
2010-05-20 11:34:21.924440 SEARCH :: Unable to load RSS feed from NZBMatrix, skipping: [Errno socket error] [Errno 111] Connection refused
2010-05-20 11:34:43.698954 SEARCH :: Unable to load RSS feed from NZBMatrix, skipping: [Errno socket error] [Errno 111] Connection refused
2010-05-20 11:34:54.069546 SEARCH :: Unable to load RSS feed from NZBMatrix, skipping: [Errno socket error] [Errno 111] Connection refused
2010-05-20 13:34:22.610175 SEARCH :: Unable to load RSS feed from NZBMatrix, skipping: [Errno socket error] [Errno 111] Connection refused
2010-05-20 13:34:42.670147 SEARCH :: Unable to load RSS feed from NZBMatrix, skipping: [Errno socket error] [Errno 111] Connection refused
2010-05-20 13:34:53.039310 SEARCH :: Unable to load RSS feed from NZBMatrix, skipping: [Errno socket error] [Errno 111] Connection refused
2010-05-20 15:34:22.640113 SEARCH :: Unable to load RSS feed from NZBMatrix, skipping: [Errno socket error] [Errno 111] Connection refused
2010-05-20 15:34:41.887968 SEARCH :: Unable to load RSS feed from NZBMatrix, skipping: [Errno socket error] [Errno 111] Connection refused
2010-05-20 15:34:52.238141 SEARCH :: Unable to load RSS feed from NZBMatrix, skipping: [Errno socket error] [Errno 111] Connection refused
2010-05-20 17:34:22.719920 SEARCH :: Unable to load RSS feed from NZBMatrix, skipping: [Errno socket error] [Errno 111] Connection refused
2010-05-20 17:34:42.563875 SEARCH :: Unable to load RSS feed from NZBMatrix, skipping: [Errno socket error] [Errno 111] Connection refused
2010-05-20 17:34:52.934450 SEARCH :: Unable to load RSS feed from NZBMatrix, skipping: [Errno socket error] [Errno 111] Connection refused
2010-05-20 19:34:23.414560 SEARCH :: Unable to load RSS feed from NZBMatrix, skipping: [Errno socket error] [Errno 111] Connection refused
2010-05-20 19:34:43.049251 SEARCH :: Unable to load RSS feed from NZBMatrix, skipping: [Errno socket error] [Errno 111] Connection refused
2010-05-20 19:34:53.420367 SEARCH :: Unable to load RSS feed from NZBMatrix, skipping: [Errno socket error] [Errno 111] Connection refused

RSS/API
The RSS Offline until further notice, we have also removed the API facility for a few days.

Well, that blows. Lucky I got in in time to get a nzbs.org account...

Post 17

Make sure you send over an invite for that when possible. ;)

Post 18

+1

Post 19

It's back working today for me.

Post 20

The API stuff? Yeah, it is indeed.

Post 21

(in a pala tone) So nice of you to confirm what I know already.