Election '10

30 public posts in this discussion.

Post 1

Looks like a hung Parliament... oh and greens won a seat!

Post 2

Interesting times indeed.... unfortunately I have to spend time with Nytcrawler tomorrow and I can imagine the conversation now :P

Post 3

If nothing else

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Victorian Family First Senator Steve Fielding has lost his place in the Upper House, Antony Green says.

best news I've heard so far.

I was hoping the sex party would get a senate seat as a balance, but this is an acceptable compromise.

Post 4

Ahhhhhhhh shiiiiiit I thought voting was on Sunday!!!

Post 5

glad i was drunk readng this, makes sense that what im about to say is drunk talk to me....

um have you ever wanked 4 times in one day and wondered why did i do this???

Post 6

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Post 7

Quote from Sonicks_Services;388170:
glad i was drunk readng this, makes sense that what im about to say is drunk talk to me....

um have you ever wanked 4 times in one day and wondered why did i do this???

You really need to stop posting when you're drunk. ;)

Post 8

Quote from Jay;388174:
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wtf

Post 9

greens with 9 in the senate too. The former national independents want broadband as a priority. Minority labor with greens and independents with the balance would be a good result. NBN going ahead and a good chance of the filter being blocked.

Post 10

Quote from morge;388178:
greens with 9 in the senate too. The former national independents want broadband as a priority. Minority labor with greens and independents with the balance would be a good result. NBN going ahead and a good chance of the filter being blocked.

Fingers crossed for that outcome.

Post 11

Quote from morge;388178:
greens with 9 in the senate too. The former national independents want broadband as a priority. Minority labor with greens and independents with the balance would be a good result. NBN going ahead and a good chance of the filter being blocked.

sounds too good to be true

Post 12

I'm reading Tweets suggesting that result might even lead to greater equality such as giving gays the right to marry?

What seemed like a horror election might wind up the best thing that could have happened to this country in a while.

Post 13

2 terrible parties .. hopefully we dont all pay for it in the end.

Post 14

I've experienced lots of hung elections when I was back in Ireland. Coalitions with independents or small minority parties is common. It has made for the most part very stable Irish governments as the cabinet is never 100% formed from a single party. That dynamic alone (where major party whip had no power over those ministers) creates a very diverse cabinet with differing opinions/expertise.

Since 1989 neither of the two major parties has been able to form government on their own. The current Irish government is formed from a major party, two greens and an independent. Those three MP's are all ministers in the government. I expect Gillard will have to do the same here and offer portfolios to the independents and maybe the green (although hes a first time member so I suspect he may not be able to manage a top job).

As already pointed out those independents are ex National party members. They are country pollies who left the Nationals for a reason and country people want the NBN. I fully expect Gillard (who has first crack at it anyway) to make a successful deal with them.

Post 15

Quote from rec;388181:
What seemed like a horror election might wind up the best thing that could have happened to this country in a while.

Whoever forms government will likely call an election as soon as some weakness in the opposition is sensed in an effort to govern on their own. With a hung parliament there is likely to be many triggers for a double dissolution election so we may be back at the polls a lot sooner than we think.

Post 16

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The three Independent MPs who will be critical to forming government - Tony Windsor from New England, Rob Oakeshott from the New South Wales north coast seat of Lyne and Bob Katter from the far north Queensland seat of Kennedy - have all put telecommunications at the top of their priority lists.

Asked about the key policies that would help secure his support, Mr Windsor told the 7.30 Report last night: "Health, water, broadband and how it relates to the delivery of health, education and services." West Australian National Tony Crook, who scored a stunning upset win over Liberal hard man Wilson Tuckey in the seat of O'Connor and is flagging himself as an Independent, also said broadband was one of three key issues he would pursue.

"I think broadband is popular generally, as long as O?Connor isn?t in the 8 per cent that misses out. We don?t even have decent mobile phone coverage, or any phone coverage out this way," he said.
The Prime Minister has assured the independents that her policies - particularly the promised $43 billion NBN and extra spending on education and health - would provide tangible benefits to their electorates, especially those in rural and regional areas.

Mr Abbott indicated he was prepared to alter his election promises - including on his proposed broadband plans - in an effort to be "pragmatic" and win over the Independent MPs.

Julia Gillard, Tony Abbott vie for favour with independents as second election possible | News.com.au

Post 17

Yeh Abbott already back flipping on his anti-NBN platform to get power.. well done sir.

Post 18

Regardless of your position on politics, surely that is a good thing though right - a politician listening and adjusting their position accordingly?

Post 19

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Opposition Leader Tony Abbott today pledged to ensure "a kinder, gentler" style of national politics as he intensified his pitch to woo the independents and form a minority government.

lolwtf.

Post 20

Good summary.

ABC The Drum Unleashed - The Constitution hung out to dry

Post 21

Labor forms gov.
Windsor, Oakeshott back Gillard
Bob Katter backs Tony Abbott

Post 22

Bob Katter is such a rubbish independent.

Post 23

Quote from Joshuayu101;388781:
Bob Katter is such a rubbish independent.

He's a strange one. But he couldn't have thrown his support behind labor. Considering Labor didn't poll very well in his electorate at all - in fact they only got a 20% of the vote. It would have been stupid for Katter to support a party that his electorate clearly did not want. *shrugs*

Post 24

Then again in Oakeshott's electorate Labor only got 13% of the vote. But he got offered a Ministry so perhaps that assisted in his decision.

Post 25

Quote from lrinaldi;388791:
Then again in Oakeshott's electorate Labor only got 13% of the vote. But he got offered a Ministry so perhaps that assisted in his decision.

Political Suicide

Post 26

Suicide... I doubt it. He will get a lot done for his electorate now. Voters wont give a damn who gave em what they wanted/needed next time the polls come around, fact his he (may have) delivered and his vote% will grow.

Unlike Katter the idiot who stated his reason for going with the Libs was because they gave him more of his 20 items then Labor did. So now Labor are in without his vote where will that leave him... Oh yeah 0 from 20 thats where. He knew that that the other two Indo's were going to side with labor yet instead of falling in line and getting what he could for his electorate, he went rouge. Do you think his electorate will thank him for that ?

In the end all I personally care about is getting the NBN through.

Post 27

Do you think NBN will get "done" before we head back to the polls though?
With it this close, it doesn't take much for that to happen.

Post 28

Who knows... but its as good an outcome as possible where the NBN is concerned.

Post 29

seems to be an awful lot of bitching on facebook and such. am i the only deluded idiot who thinks this was the best possible outcome?

Post 30

I agree Mungus this is pretty much exactly what I wanted. A labor government so we get the NBN but without enough power to get the Internet Filter through the Senate. Its WIN WIN!