How do make a direct cable connection

Can someone tell me how to make a direct cable connection from the very start ie everything thanks :twisted:

Gidday mate, you may have to elaborate exactly what you are trying to do ?

Connect peer to peer across cable internet ?
Serial/parrallel cable ?
Network Cross Over etc ?

All of them pretty trivial, just elaborate and I'm certain you'll get your help.

Enjoy

A SERIAL cable

man, I haven't used one of thoses in YEARS.... :lol:

Quote from KILLER:
A SERIAL cable for win98

Jeeze thats taking me back to the day, I woudl help you but i have forgotten how to do it myself :lol:

Thats like back before the day of the comercial hub, hmmm brign back memories of Red Alert 1 over the serial..

U need a device called a Null Modem

All it does is swap the TX and RX lines in the RS-232 port.

Also U need something like laplink software

U do know this peaks out even on a 16550UART @ less than 2K a second data transfer..

If U cant for some reason use a normal network card and a X-over cable for the machines, get a USB LAN adapter..

It will peak out the USB @ about 1.3Mbytes a second.. But thats blitzing compared to the com port style..

To establish a direct cable connection via a serial cable:

1. Ensure that the Direct Cable Connection program is installed. To check if it is, try: Start | Programs | Accessories | Communications | Direct Cable Connection. If it exists, then, it's installed. Otherwise, it's not. See step 2. Else, skip to step 7.

2. If Direct Cable Connection is NOT installed, try: Start | Settings | Control Panel | Add/Remove Programs.

3. Click on the Windows Setup tab. This may take several seconds to load, particularly on slower computers, so be patient.

4. Click once on the 'Communications' text, then click on 'Details...'

5. Click the Checkbox entitled Direct Cable Connection. It should prompt for the installation of Dialup Networking. Ensure that this is installed as well. You may be prompted for your Windows 98 Setup CD or CAB files.

6. Restart your computer, if applicable, and go to step 7.

7. Ensure TCP/IP Protocal is installed. To do this, try: Start | Settings | Control Panel | Network.

8. If TCP/IP -> Dial-Up Adapter or TCP/IP (Shared) -> Dial-Up Adapter is not present, it needs to be installed; go to step 8. If it is installed, skip to step 12.

9. Click the 'Add' button.

10. Click on 'Protocal', then 'Add'

11. Click on 'Microsoft' in the left hand column, then select 'TCP/IP' from the right hand list. Click Ok. You may be prompted for your Windows 98 Setup Disk or CAB files, and may have to restart your computer. Go to step 12.

12. Execute: Start | Programs | Accessories | Communications | Direct Cable Connection.

13. Direct Cable Connection should now start. This is a good time to preform the above procedure on the second computer. Ensure that every detail in the 'Network' section of Control Panel is the same on both computers. N.B. Unless you know it, it is wise for you to note down the host's computer name under the 'Identification' tab. It will almost certainly come in useful later.

N.B II, Setting the network properties the same only counts towards parts mentioned in the above description. The author takes no responsibility for you screwing your network settings, disabling your dial-up or boardband internet connection, contracting a virus, accidently formatting your hard drive, spilling coke on your computer etc... La la la la la, I can't hear you. Go to step 14.

14. Configure, in Direct Cable Connection, the host and guest computer. The host computer has the files that are to be accessed, and the guest computer is the computer which does the accessing. N.B. you must have one of each, and only one of each. There can be no two hosts, nor two guests. One host, one guest.

15. Do a final cable check; is the cable securely plugged in, and into the port you specified in the Direct Cable Connection setup?

16. Engage the programs simultanously on each computer.

17. Be patient. It often takes a moment for the two computers to talk. You may be prompted for the host computer's name, with the guest claiming it can't see it. It's lying. Simply enter the host computer's name, and it should find it.

18. Enjoy your connection. The Direct Cable Connection program must be kept open at all times, unless you wish to terminate the connection, at which point it may be closed. Note, you will have to reconnect again later if you wish to re-open the connection.

Enjoy.

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U do know this peaks out even on a 16550UART @ less than 2K a second data transfer..

bit faster than that. max throughput for my serial port is 128000 bps (~15-16 K/sec) wouldn't be any point to a modem faster than 28.8k if you could only get 2k/sec through the com port :P

Quote from Angakoq:
Jeeze thats taking me back to the day, I woudl help you but i have forgotten how to do it myself :lol:

Thats like back before the day of the comercial hub, hmmm brign back memories of Red Alert 1 over the serial..

lol i remember trying to play Doom 2 over serial between a desktop and a laptop :)

Bloody pathetic, i hope nothing happens to cause us to go back to the start of the computer era :roll:

how do i get the file sharing to work on both computers. The connection proceeds, yet the program then tells us to specify the host computers name, which we then input correctly but are still told that it cant find the shared folders...

As I said, you can't share both at the same time. Only one guest, and one host. The guest accesses the files, the host provides them.

Eater remember playing in a 4 player doom network across a neighbourhood (coax yeeehaa)

Prick neighbours kept cutting cable so we relaid it across some slightly friendlier neighbours
So prick neighbours jump fence and cut cable
So Eater gets the shits and gets marine armacore cable and relays it as a sheath around the puny coax
So prick neighbours used an axe
a chainsaw
a hammer and chisel

And we sat back and laughed.....

and played doom...

well

Quote from KILLER:
well

help is something people volunteer. not something you demand, or have a right to expect.

I'm tired, can someone else help Killer? It's nearly midnight and I have exams in ten days...

If no-one's helped in the morning I'll answer any questions.

yeah thanks

/me bashes KILLER for not posting in the correct forum.

Moderators move this one away to where it should be?

I'm not going to say anything since all the other guys did an eggcellent job at describe what I know myself.

Quote from paladin:
[quote:32fd3967c4="Sly_Fox"]
U do know this peaks out even on a 16550UART @ less than 2K a second data transfer..

bit faster than that. max throughput for my serial port is 128000 bps (~15-16 K/sec) wouldn't be any point to a modem faster than 28.8k if you could only get 2k/sec through the com port :P[/quote:32fd3967c4]

No shit sherlock, but for this U wont see speeds like that..

I have done this before for file transfers. Going back to AT computers equiped with huge 10Meg HDs. Before the 16550 was out actually..

Its slow but cheapernet cards were so damn expensive back then.

Quote from Sly_Fox:
[quote:d05db5ec82="paladin"][quote:d05db5ec82="Sly_Fox"]
U do know this peaks out even on a 16550UART @ less than 2K a second data transfer..

bit faster than that. max throughput for my serial port is 128000 bps (~15-16 K/sec) wouldn't be any point to a modem faster than 28.8k if you could only get 2k/sec through the com port :P[/quote:d05db5ec82]

No shit sherlock, but for this U wont see speeds like that..

I have done this before for file transfers. Going back to AT computers equiped with huge 10Meg HDs. Before the 16550 was out actually..

Its slow but cheapernet cards were so damn expensive back then.[/quote:d05db5ec82]

and i've recently written software that performs transfers across serial ports, and it was certainly faster than 2k/sec. albeit still god awful slow compared to even a cheap ethernet solution, which for 2 pcs is < "00 these days

Quote from Eater_Of_Souls:
Eater remember playing in a 4 player doom network across a neighbourhood (coax yeeehaa)

Prick neighbours kept cutting cable so we relaid it across some slightly friendlier neighbours
So prick neighbours jump fence and cut cable
So Eater gets the shits and gets marine armacore cable and relays it as a sheath around the puny coax
So prick neighbours used an axe
a chainsaw
a hammer and chisel

And we sat back and laughed.....

and played doom...

ROFL
awww eater makes me laugh with his stories and but talking about him self in 3rd person

ummm can anyone please help me :?:

About to goto bed and thought I would add my two cents worth. Firstly, well done to the fraternity for assisting the person in need.

a) I guess RS232 actually finished in 1990/91 ? I can't remember the exact year

b) its successor is called EIA232

c) The electrical specifications for the standard serial port,
V.28 (aka EIA232), set a maximum transmission speed of 20000bit/s.
(That's also the reason that V.110 is limited to 19.2kbps for the developers out there :-))

Killer by the sounds you've got your null modem going, (simply cross pins 2 & 3 + 5 straight through on a D9) 2, 3 & 7 on a D25 though I would personally recommend a parallel cable if you are doing this.

Sly recommended LapLink, I would also recommend FX found it to be faster throughout the years.

Well done, for wolfspirit for a good effort, as stated you have to get the Host and Client working. I recommend sharing a drive prior to connection makes troubleshooting slightly easier.

Have you actually enabled file-sharing? Right-click on the folder/drive you want shared, and see if "Sharing" is an option. If so, select it, and enable it (you will see a blue hand under the folder/drive you are sharing).

If this is not an option, you first need to set it up.

Right-click Network Neighbourhood, Properties, then.....<memory dump>....somewhere in there is the option to enable file/folder sharing. Set it up, reset your computer, then try again to right-click the folder/file you want to share.

You should now see that option in the menu that appears.

Good night.

If I was eater on the previous situation after prick neighbour jumped fence and cut cable I would have installed pipe bomb version 1.01. Just enough ball bearings to hurt, not maim. Would have solved the situation.

OMG fucking serial connection i very vaguely remember using that.

Heres my advice for ya. Get yourself $70 or so, buy yourself a couple of 10/100 network cards and a cross over cable...
there you go, problem solved 8)

Hmm... I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish.

To enable file sharing, simply turn it on in network properties... But, third time, YOU CAN'T SHARE FILES FROM THE GUEST TO THE HOST. It's unpossible. Only from the host to the guest.

I know. BUt for some reason it keeps saying that it can't find the shared folders after i type in the hosts computer name.

FFS .. BEN i will get windows XP and you and andrew can install it. get rid of 98 and then go crossover between the both of you .. and you dont have to restart :D

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.. and you dont have to restart :D

OMG, Windows has finally gotten that far?