For all those bagging weed and promoting alchohol

I don't know why I'm even creating a thread, I know exactly what's going to happen. I simply got a kick of all the people in the "weed" thread making points that alchohol is a better alternative. I don't smoke weed, and don't drink nearly as much as I used to.

However, alchohol is far more damaging to your physical health than pot ever will be. Alchohol is one of the harshest drugs availible (legally, coincidentally) and is often abused. This doesn't make up for the fact that long-term abuse of pot damages more than your physical health, but believe it or not so does alchohol (to a lower extent).

Abuse of alchohol bears suprisingly similar long-term effects often seen in abusers of the substance MDMA and MDA (ecstacy) - fact. Obviously these long term effects of alchohol abuse are to a much lesser degree than if you were popping pills on a regular basis, but the effects regardless of degree are so similar it's scarey.

If you're drinking a couple bottles of hard liquor a weekend, every weekend for your entire youth, or are an alchoholic, you might as well just pop some pills from time to time (this is not encouragement or a recommendation, do NOT take that the wrong way). You're putting yourself at similar long-term risks.

Oh and just one more thing, it has been proven in studies that smokers (the taxed smoke, not the non-taxed illegal smoke) have a lesser chance of developing Alzheimer's than non-smokers. This however does not out-weigh the damage that is done to you physically in the mean time.

At the end of the day, you know what? Fuck it, do whatever you want, however you like, whatever makes you happy. Just make sure your choices are only effecting you. Most things you do, drug related or not, fucks with your mind and body in a negtive way, and it's up to you what you do and whether you decide to do it in moderation or not. We're all going to end up old, perishing and eventually die, it just depends on how soon you want this to happen.

Look on the bright side, in 25 years human organs will be able to be repaired or replaced, both naturally, or if you like something out of a sci-fi.

mwhahahahahahaahahahahahaha Go teh weed :D

Ta reccy babe.

but... Quote from rec:
I don't smoke weed

Anymore?

Barely touch the stuff, have rarely smoked it since I was about 16.

Im too busy injecting Vegemite into my eylids to bother about weed. Far better high this way.

cool, can you show me hows its done sometime? sounds like fun... :S

Why not Peanutbutter? - smooth of corse!

:D

Nah. I like it chunky. Rough, thick and chunky.

you like it rough?

you'll be happy to read i'm only making one post in this thread.

I despise alcohol as much as weed.

i like alcohol

Quote from Knight Of Nih:
i like alcohol

ill second that motion

i never drink till i am in never never land
i get to the point where i am near then i slow down :P
i would call myself a sensible drinker

Quote from BurkynYurkyn:

I despise alcohol as much as weed.

Why man? nothing wrong with it? its all good, what have you got agaisnt it?

and I'll 3rd that motion alcamahole R0x0rz!

ph3n drinks till his hard

sif you cant get it up whilst drunk, i cant get it down ffs.

For my personal reasons.. do not drink.

i have nothing against people who drink.

Quote from rec:
Oh and just one more thing, it has been proven in studies that smokers (the taxed smoke, not the non-taxed illegal smoke) have a lesser chance of developing Alzheimer's than non-smokers.

Yay, so lets all smoke and we wont get Alzheimers and instead die of lung cancer.
Whats the reason for a less likely chase suffering from Alzheimers if you are a smoker?

Quote from BurkynYurkyn:
you'll be happy to read i'm only making one post in this thread.

lol dude, I dont mind your reasons i just wanted to get you with this :P you didnt just make this 1 post :P

hehehe

Sif i drink till im hard, i'm always hard ;)

bastard!

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i have nothing against people who drink.
but you have somthing against people who smoke weed, despite the fact that alcohol is a more dangerous drug?

weed is easier to get addicted to than booze and in my opinon more than cigerrettes.

Quote from Flammable:
weed is easier to get addicted to than booze and in my opinon more than cigerrettes.

um, how does that work? nicotine is actually addictive, while there's nothing in marijuan to fuel a physical addiction.

cant you just entwine this thread into the original its exactly the same thing. Gogogo super moderators.

samid, people do smoke spin = tabaco and marijuana. mmmmm spin :D

alcahol is more addictive then weed, so is cigarrettes.

Phen, I know a lot more people addicted to weed than I do who are alcoholics.

people get addicted to the spin ie tobacco that they may choose to put in their spliffs. that still only implies that tobacco is addictive, not marijuana

I said I know a lot more people addicted to weed, not addicted to spin. My statement stands.

not trying to say you dont know people adicted to weed but i know many many many people who smoke weed and some of them do it daily, there not adicted at all. you might be saying if they do it daily then they are but they can stop as say as they can start

Maybe, but the problem with the line "I'm not addicted, I can stop any time I want" is that often only way to tell if you are addicted is to try stopping and see what happens.

But yeah, cigarettes and probably alcohol are more addictive than weed. Weed is only addictive if a person smokes till they have a psychological dependency. Or if they get addicted to the spin (which hasn't happened to me).

Crazy, I know half a dozen people who do it often, multiple times a day even. All of them say they can stop as easy as they started.

The funny thing is, they've all tried to give up, but kept going back.

its called addiction & DENIAL!

Quote from rec:
I said I know a lot more people addicted to weed, not addicted to spin. My statement stands.

And very few of my friends are Chinese: therefore, the statistic that one in five humans is Chinese is obviously false!

the correct conclusion there would be, you have very few friends!

man i have to say, ep's posts are fun to read they really are

Only about two dozen really good mates, unfortunately. Poor bugger me for not living in Sydney and having hundreds of acquaintances.

so 1 in 5 humans are chinese? even in china.. i'm sure it'd be more over there..

my point is.. maybe there just isn't as many chinese in Darwin.. yeah it's a worldwide statistic, but that's just it.. think how many chinese are in china :)

there are a lot of chinese people in darwin :)

a lot.. but i dont know if it's 1 in 5 :S

it is if you extend chinese to asian in general.

but that's not the statistic...

i'll check it out

seemed to me like we were just making statistics up anyway

1996 Census States..
150 chinese
* of interest, 1525 New Zealanders

Total 72,621

therefore
only 0.002% are chinese, so more like 1 in 500 here.
and 0.02% kiwis.. or 1 in 50.

EDIT: total for asia
5343, 0.073%, or 1 in 14.

1 in 3 statistics are made up on the spot :|

Quote from El Presidente:
Only about two dozen really good mates, unfortunately. Poor bugger me for not living in Sydney and having hundreds of acquaintances.

Yeah, I have that many... I do...

like i posted in some other thread..

Quote from Mark Twain:
There are three types of lies: lies, damn lies & Statistics

Two dozen? Thats impressive.

I have maybe half a dozen really good mates, people I can trust my life to. And I do live in Sydney, acquaintences mean nothing here, you're just another pocket to dip a hand into :P

you dodgy bastard doyen. you don't even live in sydney, "greater sydney metropolitan region" my friend :P.

acquaintances are the people who aren't on speed dial on your phone.

also, why would you bother rolling a J with tobacco? bit of a waste of time/lung tissue isn’t it?

ive got about 30 great freinds who are such good frreinds that they dont approve me or anyone doing it, yet they allow me to do it if im careful, so i am

Quote from samid:
why would you bother rolling a J with tobacco? bit of a waste of time/lung tissue isn’t it?

1. It bulks out the weed. Since joints can tend to waste a little more weed than other methods, it means there will be a little less wastage too.

2. Tobacco helps the weed to burn better, meaning you don't have the hassle of having to re-light joints a few times.

maybe you should just learn how to roll :P

Quote from rec:
I don't know why I'm even creating a thread, I know exactly what's going to happen.
you knew that this would turn into a chat session about chinese people
wow you are good its the last thing i would of guessed :P

3 words = all in moderation

i think everything can be bad for you if taken in excess.... these topics about how drugs are bad.... yes they are. everyone knows this... just that some people choose to walk on the wild side. some dont....
everything has its risks. leaving your house, there are risks! okay so some are more risky, but still.... if were going to get into over exadurations like people have been then i can say that :P
i could give heaps and heaps and heaps of info about how bad any drug is.... but sometimes there are benifits. for example, pot helps cancer patients....everyone knows that... but what im saying is that used correctly it is fine. if someone has a quiet drink with friends, or a ciggar when their kid is born, is that a horrible, terrible thing? i dont think so. but drinking bottles of wine and 10 ciggars and passing out as your chils is born is bad....no one can tell anyone what to do no matter how much they think they can.
ultimatley people will keep on doing what they do. the smokers cant change the opinions of the non smokers and vica verca.... so cant we all just get along?! :D

wow that sounds so much like a jerry springer final thought

yeah and why not a little hit of heroin when the old missus is poppin out an anklebiter... it's cool man, don't worry I can handle it.. it's totally in moderation. Oh and so is the stealing, I can quit anytime.

It [edit: the chinese thing] was supposed to be an illustration of the personal-experience fallacy. Sheesh. :)

PS: the 2001 census figures were released last year. I've been working with them extensively in the last few weeks, and I can tell you that people from the UK top the "born overseas" list just about every time. Bloody poms :)

Quote from Knight Of Nih:
wow that sounds so much like a jerry springer final thought

...she said 'ultimately'... i think she did get it off Jerry Springer

... didnt you know... i write all his stuff.... ;)

weed isnt physically addictive..only mentally. therefore unless theyre addicted to the spin in their chop, then theyre not. this means that while they might be saying "geez, cones are fun, i think ill have one", their body doesnt actually need one. on the other hand, if you are physically addicted and you dont get your fix then you will suffer actual withdrawl symptoms, unlike you would if you went cold turkey on weed

Reload, your mind effects the body. Ever been love sick? Your body isn't actually in any real pain, but chances are you feel like you're stomach is being twisted in knots.

If you're mentally addicted to weed, it *does* effect your body when you don't get your fix. Common withdrawal symptoms are anxiety and shakiness (esspecially in the hands).

hahahaha then there is the reason why flamm is so shit at cs now
cause he gets no weed and shakiness hands

can we just drop the whole topic now please? coz i mean its really getting sooo annoying and ghey. weed is better, alochol is bestest, no tabbaco is good. I mean does it really matter what we do in our own time abd besides isn't it illegal or something to smoke weed?

soooo..... why is smoking pot any worse than smoking a cigarette?... they do the exact same things, healthwise, to you....and alcohol... we-ell!! lets not shall we.

basically its what is the least of all evils to you?.... do what you have to do. do what you want to do!

edit: missed some words....

Quote from lilu:
soooo..... why is smoking pot any worse than smoking a cigarette?... they do the exact same things
nar people who smoke weed get pink eye

.... k fine. mr smarty pants :P

I just hide my pills in mah jocks and the speed in a ciggy packet.

yeah..