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OHH yes a great way to stop piracy
Anti-Piracy article
I find this article very funny and wonder how they expect it to work if they take this aproach
Junior Achievement is offering students DVD players, DVD movies, theatre tickets and all-expenses-paid trips to Hollywood for winning essays about the illegalities of file-sharing.
... omg.
Can't believe some of the stuff that the MPAA is doing...
If they want to stop the 'illegal' sharing of files then lower the price of the Album to the end consumer $30 for 12 songs.. only a few of which are any good.. is not worth it. Then there is the added problem of not being able to 'backup' that media due to Copy protection. *sigh*
It's all BS. :evil:
i agree lowering the price of cd's and dvd's would highly reduce the amount of piracy there is. Considering what it must cost to produce the CD's i don't see how they can charge $30+ a cd (cost price is even around $20-25).
$30 per cd x say 50000 cd's sold which is probably only a fraction of the actual amount that a popular cd would sell = 1,500,000
50000 blank cd's at around 40c a cd = 20000
getting covers designed ~$500 for an expensive designer
printing probably another say 50000
= ",429,500 in profit - whatever the artist gets as apposed to the $679,500 profit they would get if they halfed the price...
it's shocking what they charge for cd's :|
Quote from Seqo:
... omg.
Can't believe some of the stuff that the MPAA is doing...
If they want to stop the 'illegal' sharing of files then lower the price of the Album to the end consumer $30 for 12 songs.. only a few of which are any good.. is not worth it. Then there is the added problem of not being able to 'backup' that media due to Copy protection. *sigh*
It's all BS. :evil:
mpaa has no influence over cd prices.
you are thinking of the riaa
LOVES my internet *cough* :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Jono, mate... thats a pretty nasty cough you have there.
Quote from paladin:
[quote:4e472e0d9d="Seqo"]... omg.
Can't believe some of the stuff that the MPAA is doing...
If they want to stop the 'illegal' sharing of files then lower the price of the Album to the end consumer $30 for 12 songs.. only a few of which are any good.. is not worth it. Then there is the added problem of not being able to 'backup' that media due to Copy protection. *sigh*
It's all BS. :evil:
mpaa has no influence over cd prices.
you are thinking of the riaa[/quote:4e472e0d9d]
oh yeh, MPAA = DVD's / VHS?
even then, they could lower the cost of DVD's or Videos. Doesn't cost that much anymore.
The dinosaurs are dying out.
The world is changed and they are trying to change it back.
They should evolve, and work out how to exist in this new world. Extinction is the only other possibility and they are well on their way.
Aravi is right, times do change, and as i have change, you have to go with it,
maybe...
he who has no $kill, and has lots of $ will not Px...
he who has $kill and no $ will Px...
I exist somewhere in between, I believe in supporting the artist. Balancing dark and bright requires vigilance, and honesty.
Besides, I already TANGOed with the law in the low profile end and I saw them come down real hard on PXers (Thailand, Malaysia, HK, you name it, they'll lock it up). I don't get the latest and greatest anymore unless I think about paying for it and getting it legit.
My 2c
Quote from default:
some shit about profit
but you forgot that everyone between the maker and the end user also have to make a profit.
Quote from stealthninja:
[quote:9767f85ec7="default"] some shit about profit
but you forgot that everyone between the maker and the end user also have to make a profit.[/quote:9767f85ec7]
It's either a smaller profit, or an even smaller profit due to people not buying them.
They shouldn't have those CD copying restrictions encrypted on damn CD's (which would also cost). I want to be able to put my songs on my computer. And make a copy of the CD for my car. And maybe just another copy.
The truth is, we like to compare the cost of a CD by the cost of the burnable CD's, but it's not the same thing.
I personally think that CD's at $30 is barely okay. I'd prefer them to be around the $20 mark, but the reason they're so high, is simply because people have always been copying them since it was possible. The moment people realise this, CD's will probably loose another $5 per CD.
In the end, a CD still makes a small profit for those involved. Arists from what I remember usually only get around 10-20% of the profit (after tax) from a CD. Record labels get about 30% and the rest is usually some kind of government subsidy. (something like 40%) with the remaining simply going to the other costs... Such as marketing (which we all seem to have forgotten about). which includes the design of covers and slogans.
Quote from stealthninja:
[quote:2a3e728423="default"] some shit about profit
but you forgot that everyone between the maker and the end user also have to make a profit.[/quote:2a3e728423]
yeah but over 1 million dollars is a lot of profit to share around just for 1 Album
I am not going to waste $30 on a CD that has 1 or 2 songs I want, or "0 on a single. What we need, is music stores offering a deal where you pay say "/song, and they burn a selection of your choice onto a cd for you. That way, musicians aren't missing out cause ur still paying for the songs, but at the same time your getting all the songs u want as opposed to haveing to buy 50 cds at $30 each to get the songs you want to listen to.
I have to question, how the fuck does an advertisement like this persuade geeks to cease pirating games/software?
the higher the demand, the cheaper they can run it per copy.
If they dropped the price it would stimulate demand.
They wouldn't have this problem.
also, i didn't forget about all the people in between that need the money as well. I just tend to have a problem with such large organisations having lots of power and wealth and being able to ripoff the end consumer...Now this wouldn't be such a bad thing if they then left the consumer alone... what makes it worse is they cry about only making "3Billion profit this quarter... boohoo to you.
That's profit people, which they can then invest in order to increase their net worth as a corporation.
Then there was that whole thing about how Napster actually promoted Album sales because kids would d/load one or two songs, like it, then go buy the album - and probably every album created by that artist/band thereafter.
*sigh*
yep I know there are albums I've baught as a result of downloading songs off kazaa :)
ooooo a pirate's life is a life for meeeee!
yo-ho-ho a burner on the seas!
link: Study: Music Piracy Rising
Jaian, that is fucking scary
well i know im gonna be buying more CDs now that im working full time and earning more money
Quote from Wrathlon:
I am not going to waste $30 on a CD that has 1 or 2 songs I want, or "0 on a single. What we need, is music stores offering a deal where you pay say "/song, and they burn a selection of your choice onto a cd for you. That way, musicians aren't missing out cause ur still paying for the songs, but at the same time your getting all the songs u want as opposed to haveing to buy 50 cds at $30 each to get the songs you want to listen to.
That there sounds like crazy talk.....
HANG ON A SECOND!!!
http://www.apple.com/itunes/
hang on another second!! only available to US/Canada citizens!
http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,8173826%255E15318,00.html
meh.