Whats Better then a fast graphics card? 2 fast graphics cards.

31 public posts in this discussion.

Post 1

This sounds pretty damn good.... but friggin' expensive obviously. I mean Buy something like 2 Radeon 9800XT's. Not a bad idea though.

Quote from ExtremeTech.com:
Alienware Corp. has designed a "video array" that places two PC graphics cards in parallel on a single motherboard, an innovation that could dramatically its PCs' graphics processing power.
According to an Alienware spokesman, the company believes Video Array will offer between 50 to 90 percent more performance than a single graphics card. A custom-designed "X2" motherboard using an Intel-based chipset will support graphics cards from either ATI Technologies Inc. or Nvidia Corp.

"We've completely moved the benchmark," an Alienware spokesman said.

The Alienware Video Array and X2 motherboard will debut either late in the third quarter or early in the fourth quarter, exclusively through Alienware's new ALX brand, catering to high-performance gamers, the company said.

The technology looks remarkably similar to the Parallel Graphics Configuration graphics card maker Metabyte Technology pioneered in 1999, when it took two Voodoo 2 SLI cards from 3Dfx Technology and ran them in parallel. The Voodoo 2 Scan-Line Interleave technology allowed the two graphics cards to draw alternating horizontal lines of resolution; Metabyte slightly altered the technology, allowing each card to draw one half of the screen. The Metabyte PGC technology was eventually purchased by Alienware, although the PC maker never shipped any products based on the technology.

Like the PGC, the two cards won't always divvy up processing tasks equally. If the 3D perspective looks toward a horizon with a relatively simple skyscape above, the second card may be pressed into duty to render the more complex portions of the scene, the spokesman said.

The Video Array technology will be built into the X2 motherboard, which will accept graphics cards from several manufacturers, the Alienware spokesman said -- although it is likely that both cards will have to be identical to synchronize the system. The custom-designed board will only accept PCI Express-based graphics cards. That means that the X2 motherboard will at least initially be designed exclusively for Intel-based systems, since AMD's chipset partners won't have PCI Express-capable chipsets in time to beat Intel, industry sources have said.

Alienware will employ liquid cooling to pump heat away from the system, which will also result in a reduction in fan noise, the spokesman said.

Previous attempts at dividing up graphics processing have abstracted the problem of keeping both portions of the scene in sync to the driver level.

Alienware owns multiple patents on the technology. While not ruling out the possibility that a competitor might reverse-engineer the technology, the spokesman said, "they'll probably be 8 to 9 months behind."

Post 2

Read this a little while ago. It'd be good if it worked but I can't see it happening.

1. You probably can't have 2 different vid cards. Driver nightmare - IQ differences etc.
2. The gains will be negated by the CPU limitation.
3. The PCI Bus may become saturated...

Besides that there should be gains in rendering speed in particular and overall it'd be good if you had the money.

Phen, 9800XT's aren't PCI Express...

Post 3

Sounds crap imo and a waste of money.

Post 4

But the tru dual head monitor setup would be a godsend

Post 5

mm its in early stages by the looks of it. but having two monitors would piss me off :/

would be nice for a while tho.

Post 6

I'd prefer if they went into making dual GPU/VPU cards... but that would be entering a market dominated by ATi and nVidia... that = bad.

Post 7

What if both cards have dual monitor support? Could you have quad monitors! :O

Post 8

You can already do that ruin :P

Post 9

whoa think about 2 x800s

Post 10

Quote from Seqo:
I'd prefer if they went into making dual GPU/VPU cards... but that would be entering a market dominated by ATi and nVidia... that = bad.

Probably more dominated by ATi than Nvidia atm :P...
Weren't some of the old voodoo cards dual GPU/VPU?

Post 11

Yes, as were ATi MAXX cards. They were good... 'cept for driver :(

Post 12

Voodoo 5 had two processing units
Voodoo 6 was rumoured to have 4

Post 13

Then what happened to it ?

I guess this would be good as having 1 per screen, would make dual screening alot faster.

Post 14

3dfx went broke and sold out

Post 15

Check out www.alienwaresystems.com.au they are coming to Australia

Post 16

Quote from Wally:
Voodoo 5 had two processing units
Voodoo 6 was rumoured to have 4
There was no Voodoo 6.

Voodoo 5 5000 had 1 GPU, the 5500 had 2 GPU's (I owned one of these) and the 6000 had 4 GPU's.

It performed on par with a Geforce 2...

Post 17

Quote from HeReTiC:
but having two monitors would piss me off :/ NOT having 2 monitors pisses me off...I keep trying to drag shit over onto the non existent secondary monitor at LAN parties....I am so modding a flat panel into my case side :p

Post 18

LOL!! 8 to 9 months behind.. stupid Alienware..

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2258

Also Ati is similar, they have also worked on their own motherboards for the kind of setup, however still early in development, but looks promising.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2269&p=2

The technology behind nvidias is different to that of Alienware although it is similar in many ways.. http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2097

Do a search.. lots of news about it around :p

Oh yea.. nforce 4 comes with support for this, due out very soon.

Post 19

nForce 4 is out now to my knowledge....though no board available yet...aslo the VIA K8T890 Chipset supports SLI as well

Post 20

This thread is like 3 months old ... lol

Nforce 2 is still the best

Post 21

I don't care how old.. Alienware suck.. :)

It's like buying.. a Dell for "gaming"..

Dell.. suck :)

Post 22

1. Dell dont suck
2. Alienware dont suck
3. you DO suck.

Post 23

Become a man
build your own system and don't buy some pre-built bullshit at pumped up prices

Post 24

Quote from Blashyrkh:
There was no Voodoo 6.

Voodoo 5 5000 had 1 GPU, the 5500 had 2 GPU's (I owned one of these) and the 6000 had 4 GPU's.

It performed on par with a Geforce 2...

sorry, yeah, I got a bit confused, was trying to remember stuff I haven't thought about for 3/4 years

Post 25

*looks at my pc :s..*

i have triple view 9600 XT lol

*scratches head*

Post 26

Man whats with all the thread necromancy all of a sudden?

FYI - SLI has been available and able to be used for a quite a while now... A few of the top scorers in 3dmark 03 and 05 use dual 6800 ultras I believe... It just requires you to pay massive amounts of money for dual xeons.

Post 27

2 x xeon = cheaper than 2 x 6800 ultras.

Post 28

2 x 6800 = more points though :P and more shiny :) you should know that :P

Post 29

well definately, just responding to

Quote from leonami:

It just requires you to pay massive amounts of money for dual xeons.

the xeons are cheap compared to the 6800 ultras ;)

Post 30

ture that :P

only a tool would get dual Xeons for a desktop...and anyone that gets 2 6800's should be shot. that or robbed..either way ill be happy.

Post 31

yeah but you need to buy dual xeons PLUS dual 6800's PLUS the other costs associated with running a dual xeon rig...