METALLICA went into "Emergency Jam Mode" with the help of Slipknot's Joey Jordison's and Slayer's Dave Lombardo after their own Lars Ulrich came down with a mystery illness just hours before their Donnington concert on Sunday. Drummer Ulrich was rushed to a hospital in Germany leaving the rockers with the option of cancelling the gig or continuing on to the UK with a fill-in.
The end result was that Metallica fans were given two special guest drummers for the show.
Lombardo started off the performance with a powerful hammering on Battery and later gave up his seat to Jordison who performed complete with Slipknot mask.
It is not sure at this stage when Lars will rejoin the band. Metallica's European tour ends in Iceland on July 4.
Battery w/ Dave Lombardo from Slayer The Four Horsemen w/ Dave Lombardo from Slayer For Whom The Bell Tolls w/ Joey Jordison from Slipknot Creeping Death w/ Joey Jordison from Slipknot Seek And Destroy w/ Joey Jordison from Slipknot Fade To Black w/ Flemming (Lars' Drum Tech) Wherever I May Roam w/ Joey Jordison from Slipknot Last Caress w/ Joey Jordison from Slipknot Sad But True w/ Joey Jordison from Slipknot Nothing Else Matters w/ Joey Jordison from Slipknot Enter Sandman w/ Joey Jordison from Slipknot
He's a tosser... Metallica have this image of "attitude", but the only one in the band with a legitimately bad attitude is Lars - arrogant f*cking tard he is.
actually, if you want a good drummer in abit of metallicas style get the Sepultra drummer. after razorback (i think thats the album name, i did buy it :P) i have no dought in his ability
Everyone is entitled to be who they are? That's a bit of an evident reality, don't you think? Why that obvious fact needed it's own statement is a little odd...
People are always going to judge, based image in relation to theirs (what they expect from an individual in terms of attitude, personality, morals etc). Being quick to judge isn't a good thing, being judgemental at all isn't a contructive trait - but everyone does it.
Just because you've claimed your entitlement to be you, doesn't mean suddenly people won't come to assumations, it doesn't mean they'll stop judging. What's more important is if you think the judgement passed on you really matters.
Regardless of whether he cares what people think of him, there will always be people out there that hate him, and others that love him - even more so than your average joe, this guy is a rock star. Anyway, my point once more, is that I personally think he's a pole smoker. :)
No, but it does mean that you are judgemental for labelling a person as you have, without ever meeting the guy face to face. What you and i see, is the person the media have presented, on a biased angle.
Either way, its your opinion, no doubt about it. I sense you have something against me lately. Was it my comments about the look of the new gu? If so, out with it boy.
Metallica dummer falls out of gig GU talks of replacements GU changes topic to judgement of people GU loves having cool, lil funny disagreements PA loves reading different views PA is rarely judgemental towards people tho Is PA unhuman then? GU now talks about phillosophy and what it is to be human
I am judgemental for labelling him, which is exactly what I talked about in my last post.
There's little chance you or I or anyone we know will get to know Lars on any level where we could justify judging him, or any superstar for that matter. We can only form opinions about rockstars (and the like) from what we see in the media, interviews etc. If they come across as assholes in interviews, then they simply come across as assholes.
I have nothing against you - I get into pointless arguments like this one with even my closest friends, how boring would a discussion be without an argument and a fist fight thrown in for spice. ;)
Quote from psyave: get the muse drummer That would be making Heavy/Black/Death metal good... Hell will freeze over when that event occurs. Personally I take Rec's POV on this whole situation. Good riddance to Lars Ulrich its not like he is any sort of prodigy or something. Good Drummers are a common thing. Its just Good guitarists and vocalists that are hard to replace.
Quote from Milenko: No, but it does mean that you are judgemental for labelling a person as you have, without ever meeting the guy face to face. What you and i see, is the person the media have presented, on a biased angle.
Milenko, the media are always going to be biased but some sources are always going to be more credible than others for news. Opinions are subjective and media tries to capture those views.
I have never understood the appeal that Heavy/Black/Death metal has had. Metallica are ok because I have at least a shred of respect for Kirk Hammett who is a good guitarist. Other bands I just don't understand how they can add distortion to chords and riffs and add maybe a bit of a solo here and there of a simple scale you learnt in your first year of guitar and then expect to call it music. I know its probably not the most accurate view of metal but its how I see it and how it portrays itself. Metal is relatively easy to replicate in a small band situation. Its true musicians that create music that is hard to replicate and require skill and finesse to learn. Well that was my 2c that I amplified with about 500% interest.
Wow, we truley know how to dribble shit dont we. Lars and Lombard weren't the fathers of metal drumming, but they sure did perfect it :)
i dont care how well they can play those songs, Lars made those beats into what they are from nothing.
and Lars aint no Arrogent tard, if anyone its James. Rec tisk tisk, you dont know metallica if you think Lars is an asshole. :) but like you said, we dont really know. but they again, i couldnt truthfully judge any of you guys, so where is the fine line?
why get any of all these "no name" drummers... webbhimself here (me) could do a heaps better job anyday ps: im asleep right now, so this is ALL IN MY DREAMS!!!!
Quote from HeReTiC: Wow, we truley know how to dribble shit dont we. Lars and Lombard weren't the fathers of metal drumming, but they sure did perfect it :)
i dont care how well they can play those songs, Lars made those beats into what they are from nothing.
Who said they were the fathers? Besides you can't really label drumming into any genre because drumming is simply rhythm is has no emotion or genre to label it. 'Metal Drumming' as you seem to call it is just a suitable rhythm that suits whatever is happening in the foreground. Most drumming is Improvised at the time anyways because you feel the rhythm of the song and play with it. You can only 'feel' the song if you enjoy it. Thats why certain drummers would suck in different genres they can't 'feel' the beat so they can't play one. Lars didn't do anything but play what he thought sounded good with everything else so I don't see what you mean by him 'making' those beats from 'nothing'.
ummm i didn't really understand much of what you said before Rec --> but if it's about Lars, i still think he's done incredible things for the drumming scene, and is in my eyes on of the best drummers still circulating.
pfft... you guys give him more credit than he deserves. Regardless of what he has done for the drumming scene he is obviously dispensible as they can get guest drummers that do his job quite fine. I have said it before and I'll say it again... Drummers are all about rhythm. He doesn't do anything but add a structure for everything else to fall onto.
leonami, I'd have to disagree. You make it sound as if drumming is nothing more than rhytmic structuring, and that anyone could do it.
Drums play much more of a role in actualy bringing the sound of the music forward... although it can depend heavily on the band/drummer, and the production of the album.
One of the most interesting drum performances I've heard would be on the album Remission by Mastadon. Give it a shot, it's pretty unconventional.
Anybody with enough rhythm who actually got a hold of a drumset and got the coordination together could do it. Don't get me wrong, I understand that drumming is the most important part of the song... As a musician myself I know that drumming is the backbone of the song... with no drums a piece sounds bland and out of place. Just that obviously this guy can't be that good to be so easily replaced
Okay, I get your point now and I completely agree. Lars has been overrated for years. If anyone needs proof of that, find the bootleg recording of them playing "Dyers Eve" live, and compare the album version to the live version...
Quote from HeReTiC: Its not how he plays it, but what he created.
just because he is getting old doesnt mean he sucks and is blah blah blah. he is still one of the greatest drummers whoever lived.
Please enlighten me as to what this guy created? Awesome drumming? A legacy? Let me tell you something I have probably said earlier that you might not have understood... LARS ULRICH IS NOT A PRODIGY OF ANY SORT. There is nothing 'special' about him. He is just another good drummer. He didn't create anything that couldn't be done by other people and that seems to be apparent with lots of good drummers rearing their heads and proving to be better. So I don't understand what this 'creation' is that you are talking about. Maybe if Lars could do drum fills that nobody else could do he might have 'created' something but I don't see that happening.
Oh and BTW, who said that he was old and therefore crap? I can't physically see who said that. I am simply saying that he is overrated and you give him too much credit... If anything talk about Kirk Hammett and how good his guitar is because frankly that guy is what makes the melody over the rhythm. I don't understand your ravings about such an overhyped, overrated person
the problem with your argument is that you're basing it only on what he plays..
but if you check every single inside leaflet of metallica albums, all the songs say written by "someone", and lars ulrich.. the someone is usually james hetfield, with random input from hammet and assorted bass players :P
So he apparently creates a whole shitload... which would make you look well stupid. But heres a note... a ****load of people know exactly who lars ulrich is... but I couldn't tell you the name of a drummer from any other band. Therefore he has a legacy, kirk hammet is a ****en awesome guitar player, but inherently this conversation is about drummers, plus, to my memory he doesn't get listed on the inside leaflets very often.
This is getting stupid, but I'm just going to clear something up.
Urich may not have been overly talented as a drummer, but his influence was huge. The evolution of metal has shown that the two sides of metal, mainstream and underground, were each heavily influenced by Metallica and Slayer respectivly. Metallica (as a whole band) have influenced almost every 'metal' band that you will hear on the radio and see on TV. And while Lars isnt directly responsible for this, it cant be denied that he did essentialy bring the band to their current success.
No he wasnt unique, or revolutionary, or even much more than 'good', but his part in Metallica has made them one of the most influential bands of modern times.