WTF! Category 4 cyclone from nowhere???

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Post 1

I don't know if it's just me but WTF!

Apparently there's a category four cyclone in QLD heading for the coast! It looped back, and formed into a category 4 in the space of what I think would be 24 hours!

Currently at 935hp's!

http://www.bom.gov.au/weather/qld/

Post 2

Wouldnt exactly say nowhere ( http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=12;t=000271;p=1 ) but your "WTF" is correct.

Some plots even have it heading into the gulf and over to the topend....

Post 3

it was a very quick formation though.

Post 4

So is this cyclone going to give us Darwin folk days of monsoonal rain?
Cause if its not then ill be upset and wont be taking any notice of the cyclone. The time for a cyclone to provide us with days of monsoonal downpours is way overdue and I’m not liking it one bit.

Post 5

Catagory 5 now.

Post 6

All these reports of it being stronger than cyclone Tracy what a load of BS ! How do they know how strong Tracy was when the gauge to measure the wind blew apart at the airport after winds of over 180kmph were recorded ???? It's almost like a competition to get a cyclone to be faster and more destructive than Tracy ! :mad:

Post 7

Quote from fing@:
... wind blew apart at the airport after winds of over 180kmph were recorded ???? It's almost like a competition to get a cyclone to be faster and more destructive than Tracy ! :mad:

http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/wrap_fwo.pl?IDQP0005.txt

Quote from BoM:
Details of SEVERE TROPICAL CYCLONE Ingrid, Category 5, for 7:00 am EST
Central Pressure : 930 Hectopascals
Location of Centre : within 20 kilometres of
latitude 13.9 degrees south
longitude 147.7 degrees east
about 320 kilometres east northeast of Cooktown.
Recent Movement : towards the west northwest at 8 km/hr.
Destructive winds : out to 90 kilometres from the centre
Very destructive winds: out to 35 kilometres from the centre.
Maximum wind gusts : 290 kilometres per hour.

Now I'm not a cyclone expert, but I'd say 290 > 180.

Post 8

What he's saying Doyen is that the gauge broke at 180k, so there is no telling how strong it actually got.

Like when the gauge broke, it's not like the winds said, 'whoa fella's the gauge broke, we'll just stay at the same velocity now'.

Post 9

My bad, apologies ;)

For the top end's sake, I hope its nothing like tracey in either case.

Post 10

Interestingly, Darwin felt an earthquake 1 week before both Tracy and Thelma..... spooky!

Post 11

Quote from Hitokiri Kensuke:
WTF! Category 4 cyclone from nowhere???
well, when a mummy cyclone and a daddy cyclone like each other very much (or sometimes they are just drunk) ..... wait, it doesn't work like this for cyclones...

anywho, if that thing bunny hops the QLD peninsula, then it could track the gulf all the way to probably groote eylandt and head inland towards Darwin.. it's happened before, and with this cyclone being so intense it could have the power to make it to Darwin as a Cat3+

Post 12

We can only hope!

Post 13

For the record I was in Darwin when Tracy struck. The wind came in two bursts, one prior to the eye passing over us and then the second one after. The second lot of winds were by far the most destructive. The gauge at the airport broke in the first winds. Tracy was not a big cyclone in size but it was compact, very strong and it hit this town in such a way as though it's mission was to destroy Darwin. It succeeded. Most housing, 75% was destroyed. I got in my mates car to see my parents who lived only 2 km away and it took me 2 hours to get there because of the massive debris around. I too hope nobody eles experiences what we did on that Christmas eve 30 years ago. It's nature at it's most destructive worst. :-(

Post 14

i've got quite a few albums of folders from tracy's cleanup.. and i know it doesn't do justice to experiencing it.. but these photos tell a devastating story.

Post 15

Quote from OverDrive:
Interestingly, Darwin felt an earthquake 1 week before both Tracy and Thelma..... spooky!

Really? Damn, that IS spooky. Maybe theres a phenomena at play here, that no-ones noticed before :)

Quote from Burk:
well, when a mummy cyclone and a daddy cyclone like each other very much (or sometimes they are just drunk) ..... wait, it doesn't work like this for cyclones...

Haha Burk...you gave me morning giggles. Thanks :D

Post 16

I believe Tracy was a category 4.

It's a pity they only build housing, since Tracy, to category 3.

Post 17

glad to be of service milenko. ;)

Post 18

As was said with the wind guage, Tracy was only marked Cat4 cause the highest recorded speed puts it as a Cat4...in reality it was probably a 5

Post 19

Speaking of cyclones and rain and such, anyone notice the new BOM rain intensity radar? ... Looks pretty schmick, a lot more detail.

Post 20

Quote from fing@:
For the record I was in Darwin when Tracy struck.(

I read alott into Darwin history there are alotta stories you wont find on musem walls i can imagine what it was like to find ppl that had been killed by flying debre, my friend savas service station was ripped to shreads but since then has been repaired an is still standing today in darwin city :) (Next to uncle sams).

its unfair how innocent people are killed by natural disasters an wars.

What i saw in east timor would make any sane person physically sick an i know i never wanna see or smell that again and im sure seeing a site after a natural disaster would be exactly the same.

Post 21

yeah, noticed that radar this morning. was the talk of the office.. well, ok.. i told someone and they said "nerd"

Post 22

Quote from Wrathlon:
As was said with the wind guage, Tracy was only marked Cat4 cause the highest recorded speed puts it as a Cat4...in reality it was probably a 5

AFAIK, Tracy didn't rip large amounts of bitumen from the earth. If it did (I could quite easily be wrong) then, yes, it'd probably be a Cat 5.

Category 4 Cyclones don't have the ability to do that... (Haven't touched this type of reading for a long time now so I'm probably not remembering the details correctly... but yeh... I'm reasonably sure ;))

Post 23

I'd say this'll be one to watch as the day goes on:
http://mirror.bom.gov.au/products/IDR192.loop.shtml

Post 24

http://data.theweather.com.au/access/radar/popup_wz_240.jsp?15lev=true&code=qld

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDE00902.loop.shtml

http://www.weatherzone.com.au/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=12;t=000272;p=2

https://afweather.afwa.af.mil/cgi-bin/looper.cgi?AGM5IR02_L,6

http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/subsets/?Australia3/2005065/Australia3.2005065.aqua.500m.jpg

http://www.met-office.gov.uk/sec2/sec2cyclone/tcgts/fxxt01.txt

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/sohemi/sohemiloops/shnewguinea.html

Post 25

cape melville is going to be a flattened area today :( .. should be hitting them this arvo full force.

Post 26

I could be wrong seqo, but isnt it tornados that suck up and tear bitumen up whislt cyclones just blow everything away?

Post 27

I believe Tornadoes are able to do it easier as it is such a small point of contact between the wind and the road. Which is why it takes the highest category cyclones to do the same...

Post 28

Wooo cyclone is heading Darwin way!! Was downgraded to 1, then has reintensified to a 2, hopefully gets bigger as well.
According to weather predictions, we will have a shitload of rain late weeekend

Big cyclone off the WA coast, but only cat 2, but is about 300km's in diametre :D.. woo...

Post 29

Err make that about 400-500km's

Post 30

Somebody do a cyclone dance so that it continues to darwin .. could use a few days off.

Post 31

Quote from Burk:
anywho, if that thing bunny hops the QLD peninsula, then it could track the gulf all the way to probably groote eylandt and head inland towards Darwin.. it's happened before, and with this cyclone being so intense it could have the power to make it to Darwin as a Cat3+

well. i'm right so far..

i'm starting to think if it doesn't go inland it may go north and along the coast.

Post 32

Models have it going along the coast - watch all the way to cape don atm.

Post 33

even along the coast will give me a day off so Im happy :D

Oh yeah .. any models or tracks you guys have post them up ..

Previous 1 I looked at was it becoming a low and traveliing inland, but obvious thats out now.

Post 34

http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/atcf_web/image_archives/2005/sh222005.05031012.gif

Post 35

Best guess it will head south once in the gulf & flood Katherine again.

Post 36

JTWC has been hopeless with this cyclone to date (burks track) so I wouldnt take too much interest in it.

Post 37

i couldn't find any others.. but yeah, that one looks like they just got a pencil and drew a line straight to Darwin.

where are some other maps?

Post 38

Starting a new thread - hang 10.

Post 39

Locked.

New thread - http://www.gamers-underground.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17607