PM Vows to Clean up the internet.

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JOHN Howard is going to spend "89 million on "cleaning up the Internet" for Australian families, blocking pornography, upgrading the search for chatroom sex predators and cutting off terror sites.

Every Australian family will be provided with a free internet filter and the federal Government will enter an unprecedented partnership with service providers to filter pornography at the source.
Communications and Australian Federal Police resources will be boosted immediately to expand checks on chatrooms to detect child predators, and privacy laws masking sex offenders on the net will be altered.
The Prime Minister unveiled his new net commandments last night on a webcast to more than 700 churches around the country. At least 100,000 people were believed to have watched.
Kevin Rudd also delivered an addresses as part of the webcast.
Mr Howard and the Opposition Leader agreed to speak for 20 minutes and answer questions from church leaders at the National Press Club in Canberra as part of the Australian Christian Lobby's campaign to get Christians to make their vote count.
Both leaders attend church and have appealed to Christian voters to support them.
Last night, as Mr Howard talked about Christianity and family values, he revealed the government plan to upgrade the protection for families from Internet pornography, violence and sexual predators.

Johnny's trying to swing the Christian vote and wasting money that could be better spent on making porn FASTER! :)

We all know "The interenet is for porn"

We should setup a mass spam to his email account with a link to that.. lol

My question is - is this going to be a compulsory everyone has it filter or a choose to have it filter?

Chose to have it.
It's aimed at giving families the power to protect their children.

its more cheaper to buy a box for the child to live in i believe.

Quote from Wrathlon;316808:
My question is - is this going to be a compulsory everyone has it filter or a choose to have it filter?
You can choose to have a filter, but in the same sentence he seems to say they are going to block porn at the ISP.????
Never work, the internet is for games and porn.

block porn noooooooooooo!!!

OH NO MY KID SAW A PENIS HIS LIFE IS OVER.

I wonder how long until they start sheltering kids from their own nakedness.

Johnny will save humanity from itself....once again !!!

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OH NO MY KID SAW A PENIS HIS LIFE IS OVER.

I wonder how long until they start sheltering kids from their own nakedness.

lol its just cos little johny doesnt get to see his pimp bush cos he's more interested in the porn sites:-D.

yet another good reason why politicians should be forced to keep their jobs (politics) and their hobbies (religion) on opposite sides of the fence !

I don't mind politicians bring religion to parliament, so long as I can bring atheism to the voting booth.

My thinking is: if it's God's law, let God enforce it.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/web/isplevel-filters-unworkable/2007/08/10/1186530595566.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1

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"We have an opt-out provision, so for X-rated [content] they can opt out, but for child porn and violent sites, they're completely blocked, there's no opt-out," Senator Conroy said.

Child porn sure, but violent sites? WTF Defines a site as "violent"? How can the government tell an adult what they aren't allowed to see because they think its too violent for us? They arent our f**king parents and we aren't f**king children.

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Child porn sure, but violent sites? WTF Defines a site as "violent"? How can the government tell an adult what they aren't allowed to see because they think its too violent for us? They arent our f**king parents and we aren't f**king children.

What defines a book/movie/game as violent? We have been told what we can and can't read/watch/play for decades now. we all accept this why should we treat the internet differently and only rail against internet censorship?
Im against it but it is a little hypocritical of us all, when we so readily accept censorship of everything else we see, hear and read.

Im fairly sure a lot of people accept it purely cause the internet provides an avenue where it is isnt censored to "protect" us.

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The policy was announced today as part of a "89 million Federal Government crackdown on online bad language, pornography and child sex predators.

bad language?? ohnoes those ****en **** politicians aren't gonna ruin my ****en swearing fun too are they???

ah shit, don't worry.

Quote from El Presidente;316926:
I don't mind politicians bring religion to parliament, so long as I can bring atheism to the voting booth.

My thinking is: if it's God's law, let God enforce it.

Amen.

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Amen.

I C WOT U DID THAR

Honestly though, all religous shit aside, the internet does need a good clean up :P There is shit you can find/get/download/make/see that is just wrong.

Then again if i had kids mine probably wouldn't have a computer connected to the internet :p

Quote from Evil @ngel;316949:
What defines a book/movie/game as violent? We have been told what we can and can't read/watch/play for decades now. we all accept this why should we treat the internet differently and only rail against internet censorship?
I'm against it but it is a little hypocritical of us all, when we so readily accept censorship of everything else we see, hear and read.

i agree man, its amazing what little right's society has these day's due to censorship and laws etc... games are constantly being denied release in Australia due to graphic nature etc... when it should be our choice. i understand they do this so as under age gamers can't gain access to these programs but maybe if they enforced asking for id for ma15+ movies and games? it would make a difference and still allow adults to make a choice as to what they want to see, hear and do, i mean look at all the bands they ban from coming to Australia due to there music "not sending off the right message"

the pm os still a ****head though he is promising shit that is really farfetched. that 189million could be put to so much better use like upgrading australia's net speeds.

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"What's going to happen is we are going to have a whole bunch of irate parents suing us because little Johnny saw a bad picture on the internet," so true

install net nanny if your worried!

witha conservative figure. hes like the millioonth zealot trying to do this shit it will never work, and if by some act of god hehe it does that sort of crap hes trying to ban will go back to the waaaay old skool of bbs, do you remember the nasty crap you could find on them eg how to prepare the human body for human consumption, and its sequal prime cuts of the human body for human consumption, and no i didnt wite them. so yeah good luck wasting that money.

Ahh but if it goes back to BBS or the 'darknet' then its not readily accessible to people and censorship worked. Alot of the stuff out there absolutely needs to be blocked from kids and net nanny etc just doesn't cut it. If it is default from your ISP but opt-outable then I can't see why anyone should have a problem with it.

Because it dependson what they add as opt-out and what they decide you cant opt-out of. Child porn should be perma banned for example, but what if they decide, hypothetically, that anything showing games with a 18+ rating is perma banned?

Depending on the setup, opting out is fine. However if it's setup that all traffic goes through a 'filter' at isp levels before being 'onforwarded' or 'blocked' resulting in impacting my speeds then I would disagree.

They've stated that the filtering will be done at the user's end, via government supplied Filtering Software.

Quote from Milenko;317688:
They've stated that the filtering will be done at the user's end, via government supplied Filtering Software.

Actually from the article:
"...partnership with service providers to filter pornography at the source."
Sounds more like ISP filtering to me. If you have seen more complete info elsewhere I would be interested to read more on this.

This is a bloody stupid idea. How am I supposed to find Rudd Doesn't Score at Scores, I Swear To God on Youtube now?

If they want to clean up the internet a good place to start would be with milenko

Thought you would love this sean
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A MELBOURNE schoolboy has cracked the Federal Government's new $84 million internet porn filter in minutes.

Tom Wood, 16, said it took him just over 30 minutes to bypass the Government's filter, released on Tuesday.

Tom, a year 10 student at a southeast Melbourne private school, showed the Herald Sun how to deactivate the filter in a handful of clicks.

Parents easily fooled

His technique ensures the software's toolbar icon is not deleted, leaving parents under the impression the filter is still working.

A former cyber bullying victim, Tom feared a computer-savvy child could work out the bypass and put it on the Internet for others to use.

Tom, who spoke to Communications Minister Helen Coonan about cyber safety during a forum in May, said the Federal Government should have developed a better Australian made filter.

"It's a horrible waste of money," he said.

"They could get a much better filter for a few million dollars made here rather than paying overseas companies for an ineffective one."

Cracks replacement filter

In response to the Herald Sun's inquiries, the Government added an Australian designed filter, Integard, to the website yesterday, which Tom cracked within 40 minutes.

Senator Coonan said the Government had anticipated children would try and find ways to get around the NetAlert filters, and suppliers were contracted to provided continuing updates.

"The vendor is investigating the matter as a priority," Senator Coonan said.

"Unfortunately, no single measure can protect children from online harm and ... traditional parenting skills have never been more important."

Family First Senator Steve Fielding, a long-time campaigner for cyber safety, said cracking the software showed the need for compulsory filtering by Internet providers.

"You need both. You need it at the ISP and at the PC level," Senator Fielding said.

"The Government has not listened to common sense and it leaves kids exposed."

The filters are designed to stop access to sites on a national blacklist, bar use of chat rooms, and can be tailored by parents to stop access to sites.

Filters 'don't address bigger issues'

Tom stressed the filters were missing the mark by a long way regardless of how easy they were to break.

"Filters aren't addressing the bigger issues anyway," he said.

"Cyber bullying, educating children on how to protect themselves and their privacy are the first problems I'd fix.

"They really need to develop a youth-involved forum to discuss some of these problems and ideas for fixing them."

The "89 million NetAlert scheme includes $84.4 million for the National Filter Scheme, plus funding for online policing, a help line, and education programs.

The Government will also offer the option of filtering by internet service providers.

Under its filter program, households can download the filter from netalert.gov.au or have it sent out on to them.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22304224-421,00.html

Owned in the ****ing face by a high schooler. That is just awesome.

Awesome shit.
Hopefully they will realise that what they're trying to achieve is nigh on impossible before they waste too much tax payers money.

doubt it. they all know it's a waste of time but they do it to shut up the bleeding hearts.

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doubt it. they all know it's a waste of time but they do it to shut up the bleeding hearts.

read: religious people?

i just dont get it, there are plenty of free internet filters that they could just link people to, why spend so much money?

again, to give the appearance of doing something to placate the righteous do-gooders.

i'm just kinda surprised myself.

of all the things johnny could have picked, why this. he's always been pretty frugal with tax-payer money, why make this his crusade.

if he'd plugged that same funding into the big global warming slash pollution debate instead, I think he'd have appeased a far wider audience.

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i'm just kinda surprised myself.

of all the things johnny could have picked, why this. he's always been pretty frugal with tax-payer money, why make this his crusade.

if he'd plugged that same funding into the big global warming slash pollution debate instead, I think he'd have appeased a far wider audience.

Election time.
He needs votes.
Rudd admits going to strip clubs; Howard crusades to rid the interwebs of vile pronography... and all websites using red as their main page colour.

yeh, still doesn't make alot of sense to me.

you've got a whole generation of baby boomers who're still voting. who, surely, would have to be his biggest target market. and most of them are coming up to (or have already reached) retirement. this doesn't affect them. this doesn't even affect their kids.

he could have picked anything to rekindle their interest if he was pressing for votes. environment. aged care and services. roads and traffic. property. anything. but he's like, completely overlooked his usual bread-and-butter and gone with something out of left field.

surely people aren't that fickle :p
maybe we are. guess we'll see.
maybe, he's finally lost his marbles.

when are they going to learn that kids today can crack just about any block.
back in school the teachers had a hard time tring to stop us from playing games getting onto porn site ect. no matter what they did they just couldnt do it becouse students like Dragon and Newbit would crack it.

Bleeding hearts - gf.... its conservative nutters that whinge here...

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(John Howard) always been pretty frugal with tax-payer money, why make this his crusade.

Is there another John Howard I didn't know about?

yes. probably hundreds.

Fine, I'll restate the joke. Is there another Australian PM called John Howard I don't know about?