Whirlpool founder is being sued

16 public posts in this discussion.

Post 1

http://whirlpool.net.au/article.cfm/1753

Lame, being help responsible for what was posted by a user.....................................hang on....i want to sue GU for all the lame videos i have been "forced" to endure on these forums

Post 2

wtf? so people don't have the right to say what they want on the internet either?

if thats the case every single negative thing said could become a lawsuit...

what happened to.... the company gets bad a reputation.. so they work harder to improve there product and start to get a good reputation? simple...

god help us if Norton decides to start suing people for all of the negative feedback that has been posted/blogged/said on the internet

Post 3

that's just.. retarded.

Post 4

The world's gone mad I tells yeah

Post 5

While it is ridiculous, we don't have any freedom of speech enshrined in law in Australia, aside from some for the pollies. So they are well within their rights legally to sue for defamation. Suing the site owner is pretty shithouse tho they should go after the poster if anyone.

Post 6

it's a *really* bad precedent to set though. in theory i could go hang out behind the set of sunrise and hold up a sign that said, for example, "DELL IS SHIT! BUY ASUS" or something, then Dell could sue Seven (or Nine, whoever makes that show). which leads to something else - if this goes through, whats to stop con artists paying some little pleb to go and do exactly this so that they can sue someone for hundreds of thousands?

Post 7

Quote from dragon xr;320227:
so people don't have the right to say what they want on the internet either?

you've never had the right to say what you want, when what you want to say is defamatory or libellious.

now, i have no idea of what was said in these threads, but if it's simply people stating their own experiences with, and opinions of the company, and not making erroneous factual statements, then it should be fine.

Post 8

Just be aware that 2clix could sue you as well for injurious falsehood :p.
I had to look it up injurious falsehood

Quote:

-injurious falsehood

Businesses and other organisations are not perceived in Australian defamation law as being endowed with personal feelings. However they may take action over "injurious falsehood".

That encompasses statements disparaging a plaintiff's goods/services. The tort has three elements -

the statement must be false (irrespective of whether it is defamatory of an individual plaintiff) the statement must published maliciously
it must have been intended to produce and resulted in actual damage, with the plaintiff having suffered economic loss because the falsehood deceived others about the organisation's activities.
It has been used in action against at least one blogger (2005 Kaplan v Go Daddy Group & 2 Ors here) and against offline publication by individuals, community groups and business competitors.

None of the statements made about 2clix software are false, as most of the people that have used their software, think they are crap.

Talk about shooting your self in the foot. 2clix wanted whirlpool to remove the threads that people stated their experience of the said software, but now the whole world knows about 2clix and their software.

I mean, I'm a software engineer, and I understand that making commercial software is bloody hard, but reading the threads, it appears that 2clix hired graduates to write their software.

Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

Post 9

That happened to the Overclockers and Atomic forums a while back with Gamedude - they threatened to sue, so every post bagging Gamedude had to be deleted.

2clix might actually get somewhere if they took onboard any "constructive" criticism sent their way.

If six people say that you're a jackass, then the problem isn't with those 6 people....

Post 10

I doubt 2Clix will win this lawsuit and I bet they've already generated more negative publicity from trying to sue WP than a few WP threads bitching about their product would.

new.com.au link: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22405674-2,00.html

Post 11

2CliCKSS is suing under that name while it's still in use. They're currently jumping ship to another fresh untarnished name. So even if this manages to destroy the 2CliCKSS name, they've already gone elsewhere.

http://www.2cli

xsoftware.com/about_us
Quote:
Our Design Philosophy

In designing our business solutions our philosophy has been based on providing our customers with two fundamental beliefs.

* Nothing should take more than 2 clicks to open. (Hence the name).
* Our solutions must provide improved business efficiency and hence, on flow cost savings to our customers.

The way we deliver these beliefs is primarily through allowing 2CliCKSS to put you in control of your business and its performance. Information at your fingertips that is timely, accurate and flexible without cutting corners and compromising your efficiency.

http://www.p

1software.com.au/about_us.php

Quote:
Our Design Philosophy

In designing our business solutions our philosophy has been based on providing our customers with two fundamental beliefs:

* Nothing should take more than 2 clicks to open
* Our solutions must provide improved business efficiency and hence, on flow cost savings to our customers

The way we deliver these beliefs is primarily through allowing 2CliCKSS to put you in control of your business and its performance. Information at your fingertips that is timely, accurate and flexible without cutting corners and compromising your efficiency.

urls broken on purpose.

Post 12

Kind of like how another forum and certain members is being sued because people say their products are shit (and they are shit!).

Company tried to sue website, but wasn't able to due to the 'agreement' that is present on most forums where website isn't responsible blah blah.

Now the users who were trying to be sued, are now suing them back, and it looks like they're going to get it too.

Post 13

even if they change their name i think the negative backlash this will cause will far outweigh any benefits they could see from it.

people always underestimate the consequences of things like this. I'd imagine pissing off the entire WP community can't end in a happy result for that company.

Post 14

Im with the Tard...pissing off the Whirlpool forums of all places is a dumb arse idea.

Post 15

http://news.google.com/news?ned=au&ncl=1120652724&hl=en&topic=t

Story reached the UK

Post 16

think it made top10 @ digg.com at one point too