Vista Shootout: Hotfixes Vs. SP1

33 public posts in this discussion.

Post 1

Found this when surfing around to see if Vista is worth installing yet..

Vista Shootout: Hotfixes Vs. SP1: The Hotfixes and the Service Pack

No sure if have been posted yet. But found it a VERY insteresting read

Post 2

installed sp1, tis good has sped up overall usage.
contains win.

Post 3

I ninjaed the release service pack off a torrent a few weeks back and it made a phenomenal difference. That + tweak UAC puts vista pretty much where I want it. My only real complaint now is the vista style start menu sucks but the alternative is the Win98 start menu and that also sucks, I need an XP menu.

Post 4

agreed, I prefer the way the XP menu popped out when viewing files in folders instead of the crappy way it does it now.

Post 5

I found a way to have that menu type. I use XP.

;)

Post 6

i'm actually capable of adjusting and prefer the vista menu now.

Post 7

Vista Start menu is awesome. Just did a fresh install and a SP1 patch and the difference in the speed is to what i think is because of the format and not the difference between the hot fixes.

Post 8

Quote from OverDrive;341395:
I found a way to have that menu type. I use XP.

;)

This is my preferred vista tweak.

Post 9

Enjoy your DX9...Start Menu is a small price to pay to play DX10 stuff.

Post 10

I will enjoy my dx9. When there is a dx10 game that I want to play I will install vista. Until then - Windows XP RARRRRRRRR!!!!

Post 11

The fact that you can buy a downgrade from Vista to XP for <"00 suggests that even Microsoft knows XP is superior

Post 12

32bit - Download details: Windows Vista Service Pack 1 Five Language Standalone (KB936330)

64 bit - Download details: Windows Vista Service Pack 1 Five Language Standalone for x64-based Systems (KB936330)

Post 13

Windows Vista update plagued by glitches | NEWS.com.au

Waaahahaha.

Post 14

haven't had any problems with it
and it is definately faster

Post 15

Can you roll it back if there are issues?... meh I'll just create an image just in case.

Post 16

Meh Windows 7 is annouced for 2010 think it will be delayed?

Post 17

Heres my experience of SP1.

I was one of the many reported people who downloaded SP1 but couldn't install it. For me the reason was some corrupt files that couldn't be overwritten. I had to spend time trawling through forums and KB's to find that basically the issue I had required a full reinstall. "Great (or words to that effect)" I thought, just another reason for everyone to get on my back because I like Vista and now it fails me. I went ahead and put the Vista DVD-ROM into the drive and what happened next has only reinforced why I personally like Vista so much.

SP1 did enough checks on my original system to know that if it started to install it would screw everything up so it didn't, impressive. The reinstall it turns out wasn't required either. I put in the Vista DVD and decided to choose the upgrade option not the full reinstall option. My understanding was that the upgrade option was for users upgrading from XP but it turns out it can also be a repair for a current Vista OS (there is no repair option when you put the DVD in the drive like there is with XP).

Vista reinstalled the entire OS over my current OS keeping the same installed programs, desktop etc whilst replacing the old OS. I've never repaired XP and have it boot into my desktop with every program and setting in the same place before the repair. Once installed/repaired Vista downloaded and installed with minimal user input all the important hotfixes incl SP1 and now the OS is better then before. Like I said, I've done similar "repairs" on XP in the past only to find that settings had been changed, drivers were removed, network and Internet connections gone and the original issue sometimes still remained. I had none of those issues, once again I was impressed.

The fact that I had issues in the first place will give XP users plenty of ammunition against Vista and rightly so, this shouldn't have happened in the first place. The changes that VistaSP1 brings are small and I know most XP users wont change to Vista because SP1 is out, but I guess my point is that I've had Vista for over a year now and unlike XP, OS for OS 1 year into their lives I find Vista is far more stable, reliable and useable then I found XP to be.

If you have Vista don't be taken in by all the scaremongering, install SP1.

Post 18

Funny... Today I got things done on my PC... Glad you had "fun" on your's ;)

Post 19

that's funny, i installed vista over a year ago and have rebooted maybe 6 times. problems? user error imo.

Post 20

Once I got over everything being shoved around to different spots I liked a Vista a lot more than XP and so far havent rebooted in like a month. In fact since I installed it the only reboots I had were caused by an overheating GPU thanks to one of the fans failing and not Vista.

Post 21

Welcome to the bright side brother ;)

Post 22

Woot downloaded SP1 last night and chose to install it just before bed, glad i did at bed time cause it took like an hour : /
Installed smooth and system runs some what quicker so quite happy. Been using Vista for like 8 months now and can honestly say havnt had many problems, never even had to reboot. Vista > XP imo

Post 23

Vista is like those Jasjam phones - prepatch its a ****ing pile of junk, post patch its a pyramid of awesome.

Post 24

PC gamers shun Vista, sticking with XP : Christopher Null : Yahoo! Tech

Post 25

Been using vista for about a year never had any problems with it. Once I got used to the new layout etc, and after it had done its indexing thing (took about a week and ran like a dog) Vista was a bunch of awesomeness, unless transferring large files. Thats been fixed noticeably in SP1 and now I don't see much to complain about. It is definitely better than XP was one year into its life, remember when everyone was saying how XP sucked and you would never ever pry 2k off their systems? Same shit different OS.

Post 26

Quote from OverDrive;345450:
PC gamers shun Vista, sticking with XP : Christopher Null : Yahoo! Tech

although i have avoided vista like the plague, i have been waiting for the service pack to be released, as the same thing with all other Microsoft OS, they always have problems with new releases...

the fact i can use more than 4 gigs of ram at once is just pure awesome sauce, and im looking forward to having 2x 1 gig 9800 gtx cards with 5 gigs of ddr2/3 ram...

Post 27

So you are saying XP can't use more than 4gig ram? :)

Post 28

Business Technology : XP and Vista: A Look at the Numbers

Quote:

By the end of 2007, businesses computers running Vista accounted for just 3% of the nearly 1 billion computers in use worldwide, according to the research company Gartner. Sounds dismal, but that’s the same percentage that ran the business version of Microsoft’s previous OS, XP, in 2002, the first year after its release. (Out of 582 million total computers.) By the end of 2003, business computers running XP accounted for 10% of the total. Gartner projects that by the end of this year, business computers running Vista will make up 13% of all computers.

Same as XP then even for business systems. Probably better for home computer usage.

Isn't the 4gig (3.95) limit thing a matter of 32 bit vs 64 bit??

Post 29

Quote from Evil @ngel;345459:
remember when everyone was saying how XP sucked and you would never ever pry 2k off their systems? Same shit different OS.
One of my computers still runs 2K. Apparently some board person has installed Vista with the Win2k Explorer :)

Vista SP1 is broked for USB writing ... Vista SP1 to Make USB Performance Even Worse
Does anyone know how many times you can install Vista Ultimate 64bit OEM/Retail? Some people claim infinitely as long as you have the same mobo. What if you want to upgrade?

Post 30

Then you call MS and get them to re-activate over the phone. Tell them you had a hardware component replaced under warranty and it de-activated your installation.

Post 31

Quote from paladin;345492:
Then you call MS and get them to re-activate over the phone. Tell them you had a hardware component replaced under warranty and it de-activated your installation.

Yep same as I had to do with XP

Post 32

Quote from paladin;345492:
Then you call MS and get them to re-activate over the phone. Tell them you had a hardware component replaced under warranty and it de-activated your installation.
Its stupid that you have to lie to them when you just want to change your mobo. No wounder so many people pirate Vista, just as they did with XP.

Post 33

The "OMG I have to buy a new one when I upgrade crowd" are the same ones who think the government did 9/11, the government killed Kennedy, and believe the freemasons are behind anything and everything.