NextGen Wins NBN Backhaul Project

52 public posts in this discussion.

Post 1

Finnally some good news on the the new backhaul to Darwin.

Nextgen wins $250m NBN backhaul project - Telco/ISP - Technology - News - iTnews.com.au

iTWire - Nextgen Networks to fill in broadband backhaul blackspots

Map of Fibre Route

Post 2

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Nextgen indicated that the Darwin, Geraldton, Victor Harbor and Gippsland links would be completed first. These could be operational in as little as a year.

/me dances a jig

Post 3

Here is a Hi Res photo with the exchanges listed

Post 4

Nextgen wins Backhaul tender

Nextgen wins $250m NBN backhaul project - Telco/ISP - Technology - News - iTnews.com.au

Darwin - Longreach is the longest and thus will take the full 18 months to complete. /stares at clock.

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The Darwin-Emerald-Longreach fibre will run over 3,835 kilometres and feature 42 backbone access points along the route. It will cost "25.5 million.

map
NBN blackspots maps - Photo Galleries - iTnews.com.au

Post 5

omg about time. EAD Telstra

Note:
EAD means Eat a D...(insert imagination)

Post 6

http://www.gamers-underground.com/forum/general-discussion/32083-nextgen-wins-nbn-backhaul-project.html

Post 7

Pala; the thread you linked to was posted at 3:32pm. This one started at 2:05pm. Ie. this one was first. And that one was also in the wrong forum.

And thus, I've merged the one you linked to with this one.

Post 8

what the fuck are you talking about? i posted a link to THIS thread, in the OTHER thread, and then closed that one. click on my damn link, it leads to THIS thread.

the only reason that link is in this thread is because you merged it in. l2moderate.

Post 9

lmao, rec you need to update your admin skillz bra.

Post 10

Ah... so we were both admining the other thread at the same time. Righto. :)

Post 11

it's like a virtual double dutch rudder ;)

Post 12

Yay they finally started laying cables.

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Regional Backbone Blackspot Program kicks off.

Nextgen Networks has begun laying the first fibre optic backbone link for the National Broadband Network (NBN) in mainland Australia, offering Communications Minister Stephen Conroy a photo op at Mt Isa in remote Queensland.

[Image: http://i.haymarket.net.au/Utils/ImageResizer.ashx?n=http%3a%2f%2fbackoffice.ajb.com.au%2fimages%2fgalleries%2fNextgen+-179.jpg&h=450&w=665]
Photos: Rolling out fibre in Australia's backbone blackspots - Networking - Technology - News - CRN Australia

Post 13

They're gradually moving staff into the Secure Data Centre in the CBD as well.

Post 14

sad face

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The rollout of the National Broadband Network (NBN) in Darwin's northern suburbs has been delayed.

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NBN spokesman Jim Hassell says that will not happen until an agreement is reached with Telstra to access infrastructure, and a construction partner to build the network connection.

NBN rollout for Top End put on hold - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Post 15

/sigh

Post 16

Telstra couldn't possibly be holding stuff up! It's unthinkable!

Post 17

Just to let you all know it isn't just Telstra holding this up.

It is mainly the NBN as they don't know what the hell they are doing, and don't know what they want.

We all know that the infrastructure access is still being negotiated and needs to be approved by the shareholders.

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"The reason that we are holding off until we have completed those is really that it makes it cheaper, it makes it faster and it makes it less disruptive to use the existing infrastructure."

As you can see here they just want to do it on the cheap.

Post 18

I dunno, i'm all for less disruptive too. looking at the goddamned water pipes they're *still* trying to lay into the ground outside my office - 2 months and counting on what was meant to be a 2 week job. I want my friggin carpark back!

Post 19

Quote from RakeR;396297:
Just to let you all know it isn't just Telstra holding this up.

It is mainly the NBN as they don't know what the hell they are doing, and don't know what they want.

We all know that the infrastructure access is still being negotiated and needs to be approved by the shareholders.

RakeR is right, Darwin hasn't even gone out to tender yet... Registrations of interest to tender are still being submitted, we haven't even seen a tender document yet. I just took a call this arvo from NBN Co asking us to submit our interest, we did this days ago.

Post 20

Quote from jabsy;396299:
RakeR is right, Darwin hasn't even gone out to tender yet... Registrations of interest to tender are still being submitted, we haven't even seen a tender document yet. I just took a call this arvo from NBN Co asking us to submit our interest, we did this days ago.

Nice to know our telecommunications future is in good hands :) :P

Post 21

I hope at least the trenches they have opened up outside my house wont stay in limbo for months

Post 22

Quote from Wally;396300:
Nice to know our telecommunications future is in good hands :) :P

BAHAHAHAHAHHA...

Post 23

NBN piggyback plan with Territory utilities | News | NT News | Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia | ntnews.com.au

Post 24

its a little late they should have done it earlier, nightcliff and rapid creek are pretty much done - they will have to open everything up again. not to mention other suburbs are already on underground power like tiwi etc and have been for years.

Post 25

fibre is non conductive, you're allowed to put it in the pipe with the lectric. Same deal they're looking to make with telstra.

Post 26

Depending on how long ago they ran the underground cable they most likely have conduit system laid so with the agreement it's just a matter of getting to the ducts and running cable through them

Quote from mepm;396936:
its a little late they should have done it earlier, nightcliff and rapid creek are pretty much done - they will have to open everything up again. not to mention other suburbs are already on underground power like tiwi etc and have been for years.

Post 27

Top End races toward NBN connection - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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The Federal Government has confirmed that Casuarina in Darwin will become the second suburb on the Australian mainland to be connected to the National Broadband Network (NBN).

I wonder if that'll include Leanyer.

Post 28

http://www.nbnco.com.au/wps/wcm/connect/cdf7668043a200d08ceefcc5166da634/NBNCo_Maps_SecondReleaseSites.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

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Maybe leanyer.

Post 29

Well according to that map Casuarina includes all of Darwin.
I'm just hoping for our building in stuart park to get down.
As soon as that happens I will be dumping telstra for everything but mobile phones.

Post 30

Quote from morge;397519:
Well according to that map Casuarina includes all of Darwin.
I'm just hoping for our building in stuart park to get down.
As soon as that happens I will be dumping telstra for everything but mobile phones.

I assumed it would be properties connected to the Cas exchange that would be in the roll out. I still got a open telstra pit outside my house in karama with blue cables sticking out of it still FML.

Post 31

man i gotta get out of the slums lol

Post 32

Quote from Korny;397597:
man i gotta get out of the slums lol

You mean the whole of Darwin? xp

Post 33

He just means Palmerston.

Post 34

nah he'd have to mean all of darwin, because if you're calling palmy a slum it doesn't leave a whole lot for darwin.

Post 35

NBN has confirmed some dates of a few sites however Darwin/Casurina has not been confirmed yet.

But still looks promising. NBN Co reveals second release start dates - Telco/ISP - Technology - News - iTnews.com.au

Post 36

I'd doubt that they'd set any concrete dates for Darwin until the backhaul arrives, they heven't even announced a date for that.

I haven't heard about them securing a contractor to do Darwin yet, and they seem to announce useless minutiae like that

Post 37

NBN wireless not waiting for the backhaul.
NBN announces wireless services for fringes of regional cities

Post 38

omfg actual details

Post 39

Simon Internode said yesterday:
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Well, our DSLAM's in the Darwin area are all built and waiting for that backhaul, so 'as soon as its on, we'll be using it'.

We do have some estimates from NextGen but I think its not fair to post them here, as they're estimates – and people here retain this alarming tendency to misconstrue estimates as promises.

Bloody fantastic they have already put in dslams.

Post 40

Some more news on the backhaul and node.

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aeon writes...

Looks like it might be a nice Christmas present?

Simon:
Its obviously in NextGen's hands, but we certainly hope so, and the signs are good in terms of that outcome appearing likely :)

I know NextGen are working really hard on completion of this link – which is geographically and logistically a massive, massive effort, and kudos to them for taking it on.

It brings the first real competitive backhaul to the Territory, ever – and finally breaks a monopoly pricing nexus that has existed there since the dawn of the broadband era.

Sure, they're being paid appropriately to do it as part of the RBBP scheme, but it takes dedication far in excess of the sticker price of the contract to make something this big succeed.

I'm sure our NT customers will see real benefits from it. Along with the PoP being established by Internode in Darwin, this deployment will bring (dramatically) reduced inter-customer latency, hence higher performance; Access to the full version of FetchTV and other advanced services not possible with Telstra infrastructure, and of course these are delivered via our much higher value Easy Broadband and Easy Naked ADSL2+ services.

Please note, though, that while the backhaul completion will signal the activation of our DSLAM facilities in the NT, and obviously new customers will be connected to those facilities, the physical migration of current customers will take a while longer.

That is because Telstra do bulk migrations to our infrastructure on their own, somewhat less than instant, timeframes (their default forward notice is nominally 84 days, though we often get them to do somewhat better than that).

Do note however that keen existing customers can do an individual migration within 3-4 days via the paid (individual migration) SSM process, but otherwise it'll be a matter of waiting for the bulk migration fairies to get it all done for us (as for all DSLAM deployments).

Regards,
Simon

So maybe Dec/Jan. :)
Oh and ssm migration costs $45 if you cant wait for telstra to do the transfer.

Post 41

Spoke to next gen a few week back at an October Business Month event and they said Nov weather permitting.

Post 42

Sounds like our workplace accommodation project. When's it finished? next monday.

No matter when you ask, it's next monday.

When's the nextgen project finished, maybe next month.

Post 43

I haven't seen much digging in Stuart Park yet. Hopefully they get to my Street early in the process

Post 44

they shouldn't be digging much at all since they're leasing the telstra ducts.

Post 45

We've already done callouts for NextGen so they aren't sitting idle...

Post 46

Ba-bump.
Anyone in the know got any progress reports?
According to the nbn rollout map Stuart Park commenced work in September last year but it's still not available. I'm in Wagaman and they started in May this year. Theres been some peeps digging out front and said it was nbn work. Some sort of ETA would be nice. I'm just worried it will become available but i'll be relying on websites to tell me if I can get it and who knows how quickly they update.

Post 47

Re: NextGen Wins NBN Backhaul Project

Telstra are doing some work in my area of Stuart park (near the primary school), I suspect its NBN related as they are gradually moving down the road digging holes and doing something in them.

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Post 48

Have seen random fibre being around the place NBNco do have a local office you could try asking them.

Post 49

Quote from neotheo;407230:
Telstra are doing some work in my area of Stuart park (near the primary school), I suspect its NBN related as they are gradually moving down the road digging holes and doing something in them.

Definitely the fibre going in - my parents live out that way too and, well, old people, gotta ask questions n stuff.

Post 50

Quote from Kawolski;407229:
Ba-bump.
Anyone in the know got any progress reports?
According to the nbn rollout map Stuart Park commenced work in September last year but it's still not available. I'm in Wagaman and they started in May this year. Theres been some peeps digging out front and said it was nbn work. Some sort of ETA would be nice. I'm just worried it will become available but i'll be relying on websites to tell me if I can get it and who knows how quickly they update.

They'll door-knock or letter-drop as it begins to become available. Trust me, you won't be able to miss it when it is ready. There's a lot of backend stuff before they start bringing it up to the door.

Post 51

Door knock? I highly doubt it but I could understand the notion of letter-drops being done...

Post 52

Quote from Chycophy;407238:
Door knock? I highly doubt it but I could understand the notion of letter-drops being done...

It's what they did as the Brunswick trial was being rolled out. Don't know if they'll bother with it in Darwin.