UPDATED: WC3 Server changes...

68 public posts in this discussion.

Post 1

EDIT: Oh, the server is maxplayers 16, with 2 reserved slots that are accessible to any GU forum member. Also, another thing to remember for the diehard WC3 player is that your XP is only updated to be permanently saved to the server on mapchange - something to remember...

EDIT: Due to the restrictions in the latest adminmod the way some of you are setup will not work - this is mainly directed at admins or members of the community that have been around for a while. IF you have a password in your profile under your WONID it means that to get onto GU #1 you needed to have a admin.cfg file (or equiv) to setup your setinfo lines - ie:

setinfo pw-octa4 mypassword

With this new server, it is changed - you will ALSO need to add:

setinfo _pw-gu mypassword

Where of course 'mypassword' is your password set under your WONID in your profile.

If you are having problems with "string info exceeds length" (or whatever that error is - you'll KNOW it when you see it) then simply delete your password from your profile (the password under your WONID). All authentication is WONID based so a password is really necessary.

Any probs let me know.
OD

OK, I have updated the WC3 mod to the latest version, I have also brought back the normal adminmod we are all used to. All that I need to do now is crashtest/troubleshoot lag, etc.

The changes I have made to WC3 is that now, your XP is not reset each level, in fact, its not even reset when you leave the game. Its all based on your WONID, so you can get, for example, 400xp as an elf then join the humans, get 600 there, then disconnect, play tommorow, and all your XP is saved the way it was. BUT, it is now a lot harder to get XP than before (for obvious reasons).

I have also added a modified version of the plugin that means that if you kill someone higher up than you, you get more XP, and if you get killed by someone a lot lower, you can actually LOSE XP.

There is also now a Shop that you can buy special items at - it does not work atm so you'll have to wait for that one.

It's all going to come down to test, which I hope all of you can do over the next few days - especially now that all the admins now have their access back ;) Actually, please DO play there a lot the next few days and be strick on undesirables.

Anyway, here is some info on the classes - I'll be endevouring to get the shop working ASAP.

"Skill Descriptions
------------------

UNDEAD

Vampiric Aura: Gives you (15%, 30% or 45%) of the damage you do in attack back as health,
(i.e. if you shoot someone and do 100 hp damage you will get back either
(15, 30 or 45 hp) back depending on the skill level)

Unholy Aura: Gives you a speed boost, also all weapons make you go at the same speed
(running with knife will not make you move faster than running with AWP)

Levitation: Allows you to jump higher, basically reduces your gravity to reach high places
you wouldn't normally be able to reach.

Ultimate, Suicide Bomber: player will explode when he dies, killing enemies around him

HUMAN

Invisibility: You become partially invisible

Devotion Aura: Gives you more heatlh at the start of each round (115, 130, 145)

Bash: When you shoot someone you have a (15%, 30% or 45%) chance of rendering them immobile
for 1 second. (their maxspeed is set to 0 for a second)

Ultimate, Teleport: Ability to teleport to team mates (10 second cooldown)

ORC

Critical Strike: Gives you a 15% chance of doing (2, 3, or 4) times normal damage on each shot

Critical Grenade: Will ALWAYS do (2, 4 or 6) times normal damage when you hit someone with
a grenade.

Equipment Reincarnation (Ankh): Gives you a (33%, 67% or 100%) chance in respawning with the
equipment you had before you died last round.

Ultimate, Chain Lightning: Ability to cast lightning jumping from player to player harming them,
damage decreases by 2/3 each jump.

NIGHT ELF

Evasion: Gives you a (10%, 20% or 30%) chance of evading a shot, i.e. you will not lose any
health over it but it will still seem as though you where hit.

Thorns Aura: Does (5%, 10% or 15%) mirror damage to the person who shot you.

Trueshot Aura: Does (13%, 27% or 40%) extra damage on each of your bullets.

Ultimate, Entangle Roots: Immobilises enemy for 10 seconds.

Glow Colors

Red: Extra damage done to the player who glows (Critical Strike/Grenade or Thorns/Trueshot Aura)

White: This is when you get bashed, player glowing can't move for 1 second

Green: You will glow green if you have vampiric aura and do dammage to another player.
You will also glow green at the start of the round if you have Weapon Reincarnation.

Blue: You glow blue when you evade a shot with the Night Elf Evade ability.

Shop Items
----------

The shop works in the same way as buying weapons, except you can buy anywhere. You can hold only
1 item at a time, if you buy an item while already holding an item your previous item will be lost.
In order to buy items you must bind a key to "shopmenu" for example (bind i shopmenu)

Ankh of Reincarnation: If you die you will retreive your equipment the following round

Boots of Speed: Allows you to run faster

Claws of Attack +6: An additional 6 hp will be removed from the enemy on every hit

Cloak of Shadows: Makes you partially invisible, invisibility is increased when holding the knife

Mask of Death: You will receive health for every hit on the enemy

Necklace of Immunity: You will be imune enemy ultimates

Orb of Frost: Slows your enemy down when you hit him

Periapt of Health: Receive extra health

Gem of True Sight: Flashbangs will no longer blind you"

Feel free to check out the www site - http://spacedudes.games-fed.com for more info... The forums are interesting - see anything you like, let me know.

OD

Post 2

i loved it
it kicks asss
i will play all day :D
its good cause the pings arnt really a factr i though i was on 250ish and i was fine til liek the server got too many poepl in
much better then cs i think :P

that xp thing is cool too ill be able to play tmmrow night and ill have 120ish xp still madness :P

thanks for the time and effort OD its a great creation

Post 3

Can you unban my WONID...Someone banned me =\ 2673688

Post 4

Exodus, as im an admin there, what alias have you been using the past few days? This is important. Also, has anyone else used your computer?

Post 5

hmmm, i got like 400 keys need any? :P

OD, did you lower the crit gren damage?
because ive got it on level 2 and i dont kill people and on my own server @ home i tested it with my bro and it kills him fine :P

Post 6

Here is the Changelog for the mod - we WERE running 2.10, we are NOW running 2.21

"- v2.21: - fixed bug with mask of death related to human devotion and night elf evasion
- fixed bug where you could buy from the shop while dead
- fixed bug where human would become visible again if shot at by special skill
- fixed bug with night elf falling down and not dying with evasion
- fixed bug where you wouldn't lose an item when killed by the bomb
- orc reincarnation will now only give you back 1 primary weapon max
- orc reincarnation gives you back your secondary weapon too now
- added multi-threading support for reading/writing to files (should decrease lag on long term)
- added mysql support for saving XP (should be much faster than reading/writing to files)
JustinHoMi helped me out A LOT for the mysql, so credit goes to him on that one.
- added tracers for critical strike and bash
- tweaked the human invisibility (less visible at level 1 but more visible at level 3)
- added money adjustment for killing enemies/team mates with special skills
- improved bash and frost orb code, they should be more effective now
- replaced tome of experience with gem of true sight
- necklace of imunity now also blocks orc's critical grenade
- Increased periapt of health from 15 hp to 20 hp
- Decreased night elf trueshot aura from 15,30,45 to 13,27,40

- v2.20: - added a shop to buy items, bind a key to "shopmenu" to use it
- added option to gain more xp with weaker weapons "mp_weaponxpmodifier" default 1
- changed skillsinfo to show actual skill values rather than hardcoding
- changed playerinfo to also work when not connected to the server (via rcon)

- v2.11: - reduced thorns aura effectiveness by half
- vampiric aura no longer restores health higher than 100 hp
- added race name to the bottom left of the screen
- added player levels to playerskills command
- added option to save xp by name "mp_savexpbyname" default 0
- fixed problem with changing race when mp_savexp was on
- fixed bug related to aggressive skills and falling damage
- fixed bug with vampiric aura "green flash" (i hope)
- fixed bug with undead levitation skill being removed when gaining xp
- fixed bug where death message sometimes showed wrong message
- improved grenade spam protection (now only stops you from buying, doesn't kill)

- v2.10: - added hegrenade, flashbang and smokegrenade to Orc equipment reincarnation
- gain xp for saving hostages, 100 xp per hostage, 50 xp if closeby when rescued
- gain xp for killing the guy who is trying to save the hostages
- lose xp for killing hostages
- fixed bug where you could teleport at the end of the round
- fixed bug where you would gain xp for planting bomb when sv_warcraft 3 was 0
- sv_warcraft3 setting is only checked every 30 seconds to improve performance
- added long term XP (saves your XP in a txt file, but you gain xp slower)
read the "Server Settings" section above for more info on this
- finally managed to remove double death messages ("player1 commited suicide"
followed by "player2 killed player1"). Thanks to the AMX module."

Post 7

dun know...but yer i'm banned =\ and paz can u add me on msn so I can have a CD key pls =\ [email]twigz_88@hotmail.com[/email]

Post 8

i just spammed a few people and yeha the server is nelly full so people jump in :P

Post 9

OD another thing
can u read ya Pm's especially hte one i sent ya last night about the admin
cause there is people in there now tking and being wankers like there was last night and i cant kick or nuthing :(

Post 10

BUMP: Edited...

Post 11

a few peoel from node where complaining about the tking and the pings too
i said u were lookign into that is that what i shoudl of said? :D

Post 12

ATAC is installed now (TK punish menu), so if they TK you can punish - if they KEEP TK-ing its an auto-ban.

Re pings, I'm doing all I can but that game needs a lot of mods to make it run, so its just continual tweak time.... I noticed that the +100 pings are now down to the 40's for optus ppl so its not THAT bad.

Post 13

wicked ill tell the peopel on node that play about that new tk thing
yep i noticed the pings today were alot better

thanks OD

Post 14

Pings much better today OD. Good stuff.

To other admins, i have these binds....

bind "F6" "admin_csay red TKer's and Cheaters will be permibanned."
bind "F7" "admin_csay yellow Immature behaviour including swearing and accusing will be dealt with"
bind "F8" "admin_csay blue XP Whoring will result in your XP being reset"

I think these should be followed as general regulation. Also, a new topic "XP Whoring" when you see one or two people on the server planting/defusing constantly in order to spike there stats. It isnt fair on the majority of players so these people should be banned for a day, as well as having their XP reset. OD, the Intro screen should have something about this on the page so no-one can say they didnt know.

Or is there some script that can detect constant plantings? I think there may be something like that floating around the web.

Post 15

I can vouch that Blue has been doing an excellent job kicking the tards :)

Ta for the binds mate, will be using them.

Post 16

I have noticed due to it happening to me .. :)

Trying to connect to the WC3 server with Cheating Death on wont get you far. It either kicks ypu by console or drops you out to desktop like it was for me.

So be aware.

Post 17

If that's the problem I'm going to shoot myself...

Post 18

Roger that Dan.

Alrighty.
Do you want server feedback here? or in Admin forum?
Admin feedback that is.

Bluey, seems i can connect perfect without CD running,.....wierd.

Alright...i am posting some info here now after a bit of playin the updated mod.

Dan, my only suggestion, Go back to map based XP counts.
I got into a server and was raped by four level 7 players. Actually, my whole team was raped by them and because of it, we literally were struggling for points.

The way the XP system is atm, makes the strong stronger and the weak weaker :(

Its much more fluid and fast with per-map XP, as opposed to cumulitive.

Just some feedback :wink:

Post 19

eek...i just realised my REAL WONID 29484...soz...

Post 20

can we get PsychoStats on there please OD :D

Post 21

I really dont see stats being relevant in a mod like CSWC3.
Not too mention that OD has spent shit loads of time just getting adminmod setup for us all.

Post 22

I agree you dont need a stats program for this type of game, plus the more plugins you put on the more load is on the server = higher pings.

tn1.

Post 23

Quote from Milenko:
Dan, my only suggestion, Go back to map based XP counts.
I got into a server and was raped by four level 7 players. Actually, my whole team was raped by them and because of it, we literally were struggling for points.

I think its best we keep it as it is. With the way things are, the players that have stored XP keep coming back, if they are tards, they get banned. So in the space of a few weeks we will of established a whole new community. I suggest you milk this overdrive, set up 2 more reserved places for GU members, offering (of course) free membership to anyone. This will bring in a huge amount of new players and people, all of which are decent gamers.

By reverting back there is no incentive to return.

Also, i dont think there are any level 7 players, and you score more XP than usual for killing them anyway, so you can catch up faster.

Post 24

Valid points Blue.

Although i have heard from many gamers, that they prefer the old XP system.

This system allows people to come in, level up and have fun with their abilities within a short period of time.
Not all players are able to spend alot of tiem in-game and not all of us are as good as you. Therefore, it makes leveling up rather difficult for these people, which in turn means nothing but frustration.

Personal opinion, the old system is better.

Post 25

Actually i was thinking today, make the first 3 levels really easy to obtain, say:
50 - 100 - 200XP
That way people, as you say, can still have cool skills while not needing to spend heaps of time on it.
I think...:
50 - 100 -200 - 600 - 1200 - 2500 - 5000 - 7500 - 10000 - 15000
So someone spends a night playing they could be half-way to level 5, which aint bad at all. That should fix up the leveling difficulties. And provide more incentive to stay on, and improve those abilities.

Post 26

i keep getting 'that name is reserved on this server'

gay

please help :)

Post 27

I have played around a bit and now it is saying the 'password length error'

help meeeeeeeeeeeee :)

Post 28

Quote from BlueMania:
Actually i was thinking today, make the first 3 levels really easy to obtain, say:
50 - 100 - 200XP
That way people, as you say, can still have cool skills while not needing to spend heaps of time on it.
I think...:
50 - 100 -200 - 600 - 1200 - 2500 - 5000 - 7500 - 10000 - 15000
So someone spends a night playing they could be half-way to level 5, which aint bad at all. That should fix up the leveling difficulties. And provide more incentive to stay on, and improve those abilities.

YES YES!!!!
Fucken beaut idea!!
I think he's onto something here Dan.
That makes it fair for all.
What do u reckon Blue? Keep the same xp requirements as they are, once u reach level 3? That way u can get some nice flashy little powers fast, then after that, its like normal.

I like this idea very much.

Post 29

Mmmmm Compromise :)

Personally id like the XP req to be a tad lower at the top end, currently it goes:

3200 - 6400 - 12800 :(

Edit: Actually dan, before i bitch about it, ill come up with an alternative system which you may want to implement.

Post 30

Good to see ppl working together :P

tn1.

Post 31

Played it last night. Good game but still confused as to what it is all about.

Must be my old brain fading. I will have to read OD's link to be full bottle on what you are all talking about....

:lol:

Post 32

galant56k you still having problems ?

Post 33

Is it just me or has the max players on the server been changed to 14?

Post 34

There are still 2 reserved slots (making it 16) - its the new version of HLDS_L thats changing the returned result.

Post 35

k, That's cool ^_^

Post 36

hey sorry to ask....but im a real n00b on dis server and.........
i was jst wonderin if i could get unbanned cause i dunno how the hell it happened but im banned. :cry:
b4 u ask no i havnt given my key to ne1 and i havnt ever or ever will hack.
my info is:
WONid: 1932931
in-game name: [GT]I-Iitman
server banned from: the CS WC3 server
:) thx, ne help would b great. :)

Post 37

how do u log in as a reserved member in wc3 server? do u need to type a password or something?

Post 38

check this topic out dude........

http://www.gamers-underground.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9846

Post 39

I think the xp is good as it is! just a bit hard trying to reach level 9 :?

Post 40

well can ne1 help me?? :shock: :roll:

Post 41

new mod is awesome! especially when i have 2 lvl 6 and 2 lvl 7 :D mwahahahahahah

Post 42

Hitman, ummm...if you have been banned its probably for a reason. Got any more info on it?

Post 43

yeah i have a bit more info.....
well i lent cs to my friend ages ago and i think he probably cheated but i removed my copy of cs and the serial from his comp bout 6months ago.
i was also banned from AOCAB which is a real bummer, but i have spoken to them about it and sorted that out.
Please guys..... i never cheat, or ever have cheated and myy serial is with one person now, me.
please help, cause i played gu at my friends house and it KICKS A$
:cry:

Post 44

Quote from Over Drive:

With this new server, it is changed - you will ALSO need to add:

setingo _pw-gu mypassword

just saying there is a spelling mistake

Post 45

Doh - Fixed.

Post 46

Any chance on having cs_assault back on? Is this like a taboo subject or seomthing i have no idea what the problem is....

Post 47

Yeah, can we have a bit of variation in the maps cycle? I've been playing on the wc3 server for some months now, and, while the cycle is pretty good, it would be even better with some more variation.

-D.

Post 48

could we get some new variation in the maps for the WAR3 CS servers even if it is just putting some of the old standards back in?

and why won't my signature ever show up?? aww well thats life i guess 8)

Post 49

heheh i fixed my signature woohoo :wink:

Post 50

are any of the wc3 servers down or is it just me...:S

Post 51

Hahaha.....dw i fixed it my SQ settings were kinda screwed......soz

Post 52

FFS I DIDNT FIX IT THIS IS G*Y i thoguht i fixed it but i didnt....god im confused..... :?

Post 53

Godfather. As a note, just edit your previous posts, makes it much less spam :) I had that problem too, all but the broken server were down for me (I use Server Query). Well, I screwed around a bit, got them all up. About a day later, all but one was down again... Since noone has posted anything about 2 servers being down, I say it's got somethign to do with something on my computer. So Godfather, just connect through the game, if they work, or just screw around some more.

Post 54

I wish OD checked his private messages so i can be unbanned, havnt played on GU for like a week and it getting boring

Post 55

amph, are you saying that the other two servers are actually still up or not? Is server query screwing me in the ass as always or am I miss reading you?

Also, with the reserved spot thingy. I have registed my wonID in my profile, it says I have "standard access" and yet I don;t have a reserved spot. What;s the deal?

Post 56

Guys, I'm currently at the end (and most arduous) part of a contract at the moment so I have NO time to do anything non-work related. This will persist at least for another week - so things like map changes, servers disappearing (sad news there), etc will NOT be attended to until then.

Sorry but paid work takes precedence as it tends to feed the family better...

Post 57

its ok OD, we understand....at least 1 server is working and i aint complaining since i can join using reserve spot 8) .

Post 58

god bless the reserve *offers firstborn to the gods*

Post 60

Yep, we got one server to play on. I pity those souls who play with me, and get owned :) (or play with me, when I have PMS)

Post 61

AMPH U AINT ALL DA AND A BAG OF PATATOE CHIPS..KNOW WITH MY ADSL I PWN U BIATCH :P!!!

Post 62

http://users.bigpond.net.au/amphness/capslock.gif

Read the noob waystation post, and a few things :) try to limit caps :) It's considered "shouting" or "raising your voice" so limit it :)

Post 63

Limit caps aye ?

Post 64

Wrath.........shut up.....i to u... :P :twisted:

Post 65

OmG that did not come out good :S should of previewed it :S

Post 66

this thread is wacked!

-D.

Post 67

Sorry for posting in such an old topic, but seeing as its an Announcement I think it's allright :P

Umm, basically I've started getting back into play CS :)
My question is; are the WC3 servers running the latest version of the plugin? I looked at the WC3 forums and there are a fair few updates which don't seem to be in whats currently running :o

Also announced was a new version coming February 1st :D

Cheers :P

Post 68

You should be sorry!!

muahaha, were back, and were gonna kick yo asses!! MUAHAHHAA