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anyone into MilSim (Military Simulation)?
1. Paintball
2. MILES System
3. Airsoft :grin:
4. Laser Tag
I think only 1 and 4 are allowed in Australia...
I'm looking for people interested and help me collect information about the sport... (yeah, I'll do paintball as well, for as long as it looks like an AUG).
EDIT: More info here
That would be so cool....
what do you need/want done?
EDIT: Wahts 2 and 3 ?
You would be in almost any other state then the NT right?
NT cant have Paintball, dont know aout the rest though.
MILES is a laser hit detection system. The US military uses it in conjuction with blanks.
Airsoft is will paintballs I think but firing them from realistic guns I think. Correct me if I am wrong on this one
Paintball is 20mm spherical projectiles that mark you (it goes splat) to let you know you're out. Average velocity is about 310/380 feet per second. Equipment is called markers that look like hmm...splat guns I call em.
Airsoft is 6mm plastic shperical projectiles that sting a little more to let you know you're hit (and you have to admit you got hit or the other player will keep shooting until it really hurts, so the faster you call yourself out, the less hurt you get). It's an honesty game and the average velocity of the projectiles is between 270fps (stock) to 450 fps (full auto, smg/rifle open terrain), to 550 fps (single shot/bolt action). Modern equipment are called BPAG (Battery Powered Air Gun) or AEG (Airsoft Electric Gun). Former is from HK, Taiwan and latter is copyrighted by Japanese manufacturers.
MILES is expensive but the most realistic of all. Uses laser mounted on real military equipment + special ammunition to simulate recoil. Only the government can afford to pay for a weekend game of that quality.
What to do?
I'm looking for people interested in the sport of airsoft to have people in the federal government of Australia to have a bit of liniency on the sport (The USA has controls, the UK has controls, Canada has controls, HK has controls, manufacturing and commerce about it, Japan has controls, manufacturing, technology, intellectual property, etc... so when will Australia get in the picture?). The liniency does not mean they will allow uncontrolled import/export, unlawful use or abuse of materials related to the sport, but rather, put appropriate rules of import/export, development, commerce (there's a lot I can think of) and most of all, appreciation of the game called "Air Soft".
So if you guys sign up on www.milsimhq.com and put up an aussie banner (despite being illegal here), we'll be joining the rest of the world soon...
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Airsoft is 6mm plastic shperical projectiles that sting a little more to let you know you're hit (and you have to admit you got hit or the other player will keep shooting until it really hurts, so the faster you call yourself out, the less hurt you get). It's an honesty game and the average velocity of the projectiles is between 270fps (stock) to 450 fps (full auto, smg/rifle open terrain), to 550 fps (single shot/bolt action). Modern equipment are called BPAG (Battery Powered Air Gun) or AEG (Airsoft Electric Gun). Former is from HK, Taiwan and latter is copyrighted by Japanese manufacturers.
For us simpletons, BB Guns :D
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For us simpletons, BB Guns :D
Yeah... it's Gunzer's weekend drug that is illegal in OZ land :-(
Guys, I swear, if you start playing this shit, you'll be hooked (hook, line and sinker... damn...include the rod and reel too).
And by the way... Australia and the Philippines now shares representation in www.milsimhq.com
C'mmon guys!!! we need participation to bring up AU in the airsoft map.
I'll be writting and re-posting articles about airsoft in that webby site.
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Average velocity is about 310/380 feet per second.
not at the place i go to, ive been like 3 or 4 times and acording to the guys who run it they have their markers at 250-300fps (75-90mps) which is about 270-324kmh.
335-410kmh is 310-380fps
once they start going upwards of 300fps aparently they sumhow start to hurt even more, i think they run em at 310-380 for the US pro competitions or sumthing. although, i would love to shoot one with that kind of velocity, be so ****ing acurate.
i have shot one competition gun (worth about 5k) that did 15-20 rounds a second :D
had a hair trigger on it, the guy hands u the gun and the thing goes off, if u shake it it fires.
heres the site
http://www.intpaintball.com/
Well, that's cool information !!! :grin: I really look forward for having paintball (or better yet airsoft) a controlled adrenalin sport in Australia.
The reason as to why they jack up the muzzle velocity in some areas is because the distances at which the engagement happens is in excess of 60 meters and the BB or paintball trajectory becomes parabollic. With paintballs having difficulty in mounting sights on, the just opt to increase muzzle velocity.
With engagements getting in as close as 10 meters, the 250 fps should really be enforced. One of our rules is at 20 meters, shoot low (no... not in the groin, on the legs and foot). At 10 meters, referee has to call out a the disadvantaged player... cause at 310 fps... that's gotta hurt (some players freeze the paint ball so it won't splat so easily and cause more pain... which is ahhm... why I prefer airsoft).
I found another webby about airsoft...
Renegade Recon they're called... they got more begginers' thingo about airsoft and milsim type of gaming
and unfortunately... no Australian contingent :sad:
there is some paint ball places in bali i think not 100% sure but my friend said there is (some times he just talks shit for the fun of it)
ok, so what exactly is MILES tho? ^o)
wtf??? paintball is all over australia its just banned in the nt.... ever heard of skirmish in QLD, and zone 3 here
i'm surprised paintball is banned in the NT, we have it here in Canberra, but it's 18+ only.
what'sm the excuse for banning it in NT?
Yeah we got skirmish here. No age limits though if you're under a certain age (16 or 18, can't remember) you need written parental consent. It kicks ass, seriously getting a group of mates together and playing is one of the best times you'll have in ages. I can't believe its banned in the NT!?
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ok, so what exactly is MILES tho? ^o)
MILES is putting laser attachment on your "weapon" and loading it with special "blank" ammunition to simulate firing and recoil. This allows you to carry only enough ammunition at standard load and not spam everyone with laser. You put on laser receptors too (head, torso, arms, legs, back, etc) so they can detect laser fire and inform you if you're dead or hit. The special ammunition is supposed to contain blanks that simulate the firing mechanism of the equipment/rifle and gives you a bit of a recoil when you fire so it feels very very very realistic (that's what makes it expensive). You also plug the muzzle of your rifle/equipment so an accidental loading of a live round will deter injury and/or death of participant. The expensive part of the MILES system is the laser apparatus and special ammunition. MILES is expensive but its one of the more modern ways of simulated combat.
Laser Tag is cheap and uses a strong beam of infra-red light to do the same thing, less, recoil and realism.
no distance limit at the joint i go to, ive planted my mate in the middle of the back from like 1m away, if u feel nice u can make em surender.
but more fun to give em a welt to remeber u by
If ever I find myself in the arena with you, remind me to shoot you first