My god!

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Post 1

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JAKARTA (AFP) - As many as 11,460 people were killed and thousands more were missing after the most powerful earthquake for 40 years triggered giant tidal waves that slammed into coastal areas across Asia.

Sunday's quake, the fifth largest ever recorded measuring 8.9 on the Richter scale, struck in the Indian Ocean off the Indonesian island of Sumatra, unleashing tsunamis that hit Sri Lanka, India, Thailand, Indonesia, the Maldives, Myanmar and Malaysia.

Terrifying walls of water up to 10 metres (33 feet) high were reported in many areas, roaring ashore with bewildering speed, sweeping people off beaches, flattening hotels and homes, uprooting trees and overturning cars.

In Indonesia at least 4,185 people were killed as the country took the full force of a huge earthquake and tidal waves that swallowed entire coastal villages, the health ministry said late Sunday.

Indonesia's president Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono declared the earthquake a "national disaster", state media said, adding a relief effort would be co-ordinated from the Sumatran city of Medan.

Large numbers of children were reported to be among the victims in India and Sri Lanka, along with many foreign tourists who had flocked to idyllic resorts in Southeast Asia for the Christmas holidays.

South Asia was the worst hit region, with nearly 7,000 deaths reported across Sri Lanka and India and thousands missing.

The Sri Lankan government declared a state of disaster as at least 4,300 people, including many children and the elderly, were killed on the island.

Sri Lanka's President Chandrika Kumaratunga, who is in London, was expected to cut short her holiday and return home, a spokesman for her office said, adding she was also appealing for international help.

Indian officials said at least 2,606 people were killed and hundreds more feared dead across south India and the Andaman Islands.

There were scenes of mayhem in Tamil Nadu state, where scores of villages were under water, local television footage showed bodies being loaded into ambulances. In Madras, the morgues at government hospitals were overflowing with bodies, witnesses told AFP.

Thai officials said meanwhile at least 310 people were killed and more than 5,000 injured in the south of the country.

The nation's top beach attractions were among the worst-hit as waves swept scores of people out to sea, drowned snorkellers, sank boats and shattered buildings along the coast.

The popular resort of Phuket and the idyllic island of Phi Phi were devastated by the huge waters.

Monster waves crashed down onto beaches and crushed holiday bungalows after the first of a series of waves hit just before 10:00am (0300 GMT), according to officials and rescuers.

Phuket's major beach town, Patong, was flooded and all shops, kiosks and hotels along the beach were damaged. Some were washed away by the waters that carried away debris and tourist "tuk-tuk" taxis.

A senior police official said up to 50 people were killed on Phi Phi 40 kilometres off the western Andaman coast, where huts on the exposed beach were swept away.

In Malaysia, 42 people, including many elderly and children, were drowned and many others were missing after tidal waves hit two resort islands, officials said.

The Maldivian government in a statement said there were several casualties, but gave no details.

Governments and aid organisations around the world offered messages of sympathy and scrambled to pledge aid to nations affected by the tragedy.

With the death toll rising inexorably, authorities offered immediate help in terms of food, shelter and medicines.

Echoing pleas by Asian leaders, Pope John Paul II urged the international community to rush aid to the affected populations.

The United States offered to provide aid to Asian nations hit by huge tidal waves that killed thousands of people as President George W. Bush extended his condolences on the "terrible loss of life and suffering."

Closest to the affected areas, Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf called for "swift and concerted" international efforts, and the foreign ministry said it would send a consignment of relief goods comprising tents, medicines and water to Sri Lanka.

The European Commission said it was providing immediate emergency aid of three million euros (four million dollars) for victims to meet "initial vital needs," and that more substantial aid would be provided later.

"The needs are enormous," EU development and humanitarian aid commissioner Louis Michel said.

The international Red Cross and Red Crescent organisations launched a five million euro (6.7 million dollar) relief aid appeal.

Reports differed on the exact location and size of the quake.

The US Geological Survey National Earthquake Information Center initially put the tremor at 8.5 but revised it upwards to 8.9, while the Strasbourg Observatory in France said the tremor hit 8.1 and was located north of Sumatra.

Jakarta's Meteorology and Geophysics Office put the quake at 6.8 saying it was centered in the Indian Ocean about 149 kilometres (92.38 miles) south of Meulaboh, a town on the western coast of Aceh.

The tremors were felt as far away as the Thai capital Bangkok, about 1,500 kilometres (930 miles) north of the epicenter, where buildings swayed but no serious damage was reported.

Indonesia, an archipelago of more than 18,000 islands, lies on the Pacific "Ring of Fire" noted for its volcanic and seismic activity, and is one of the world's most earthquake-prone regions.

Lying at the collision point of three tectonic plates results in frequent earthquakes and volcanic eruptions as pressure between the massive segments of the Earth's crust is released.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/041226/19/sc77.html

:o shit is all i can really say!!!

Post 2

A bit late on the news posting for this but either way it's pretty bad out there.

Waiting to see if our neighbours weren't caught over in phuket. Also got some family on the west islands in Malaysia.

Post 3

Quote: "Indonesia, an archipelago of more than 18,000 islands, lies on the Pacific "Ring of Fire" noted for its volcanic and seismic activity, and is one of the world's most earthquake-prone regions.

Lying at the collision point of three tectonic plates results in frequent earthquakes and volcanic eruptions as pressure between the massive segments of the Earth's crust is released."

damn it, it could have just swallowed them hole!

Post 4

All the reports say that the water was sucked out 1km to sea and people stood on the beaches staring...

Post 5

If I saw the water being sucked out to sea, Id be shitting myself and running the other way as fast as I could go :-/

Post 6

Quote from Wrathlon:
If I saw the water being sucked out to sea, Id be shitting myself and running the other way as fast as I could go :-/

Easy to say but probably not easy, you'd probably be standing there going WTF, OMFG - get the camera out!

Post 7

True Wrath, but you'd have to have the knowledge required to recognise the threat.

Otherwise, why not go and get those stranded fish, it's a free dinner!

Post 8

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"The water went back, back, back, so far away, and everyone wondered what it was a full moon or what? Then we saw the wave come, and we ran," said Katri Seppanen, who was in Thailand, on Phuket island's popular Patong beach.

Post 9

got a cousin in penang (malaysia)
sent my cousin an sms 'r u alive?'
she replies 'Yeah.... I am'
so that was good

Post 10

Yeaaahhh, I guess. But surely some of them must have heard about the earthquake warning/hit on the radio or news or something? I mean it wasnt exactly a small one. Maybe the infrastructure is too primative there or something. All I know is I've seen enough shitty movies like Deep Impact to know when a tidal wave is hittin' my beach :D. Seriously though, quite the tragedy.

Post 11

i hear sri lanka and india got a heads up on it but they chose to ignore the imminent threat

Post 12

I'll quote myself off OCAU.

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Listening to the radio earlier on (yes there is a radio still :P ) ABC News. Apparently one of the South Pacific American monitoring stations did pick up the quake and send out the warning to Australia and respective related stations over in ??Malaysia?? and ??Pakistan?? However since tidal waves/tsunamis are so infrequent in the Indian Ocean as opposed to the Pacific there's no network of warning facilities among which the pass on the message.

They only managed to get a couple warnings off to a few contacts they did have but without a warning system in place for the Indian ocean the message just didn't get around enough. They assumed the message would get around more but it just didn't without a specific system in place for such events.

Post 13

Damn.

Post 14

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200412/s1273124.htm

Post 15

You have to remember that the tsunamir was moving anywhere from 700 - 1000km/h. Try running away from it Wrath. They said by the time anyone noticed that there was actually a wall of water on the horizon it was already too late.

Very sad.

Post 16

http://www.bahoo.fr/earthquake/

Post 17

Awesome link Jay... wow.

Post 18

wow - you HAVE to check those vid from the link in jays post...

[Image: http://staff.aist.go.jp/kenji.satake/animation.gif]

Post 19

Woah!

Post 20

Well relatives are all safe, not that I was expecting them to be along those coastal areas anyway, but awaiting news on the neighbours who were on holiday.

To be shifted 36m and 20m in a matter of hours rather than the year it takes to move a few inches is enormous. It's scary to think now that park has slipped, if the Canaries plate area should slip. We might end up with a 'mega'-tsunami that wipes out most of America's Eastern Coastal regions.

edit: Speeeling

Post 21

Death toll is up to 25,000 now and they rekon it will double...

Post 22

Quote from MetalAttack:
Death toll is up to 25,000 now and they rekon it will double...

Not gonna be suprised at all, most of it will come out during cleanup and illness.

Post 23

If there's a lump of crap sitting around tv execs.

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[21:34] <Jay> what bs
[21:35] <Jay> September 11 had round the clock coverage on tv channels for 3 days
[21:35] <Jay> Biggest natural disaster with almost 100x casualties and we get Wife Swap USA

Post 24

I've also read about how the quake may have affected the Earth's rotation. Causing it to wobble on the axis, but not so bad as to turn the world upside-down

Post 25

Yeh, we moved a few fractions of a degree on our axis or something.

Agreed Jay, I guess it's because an Earthquake and Tsunami are a natural disaster as well... something that has happened before, something not caused by other humans. September 11 was something new...

I have to admit though... that if this had wrought havoc on a developed country the media would be a little more willing to provide coverage...

Post 26

There isn't anyone to blame.

Post 27

or anything to say.

Post 28

I can only imagine what they are going through with the clean up. The stench must be overpowering.

I was sent to Katherine to assist with the clean up when the town was flooded a fews years back and the smell then was bad enough.

When 10,000+ in one city are dead it must be like being in hell.

Donate cash to the cause.

Post 29

Death toll now 120,000 ppl.

Post 30

and they say when it is all over it will double that... with outbreaks of who knows what... :(

Post 31

hmm. this sounds pathetic, but i donated only 1c per 10 deaths.. as at lataf's post.

Post 32

Death count now 123,147 and climbing.

Post 33

If that's the case I donated about 1c per 15 deaths. :| Wow.

Post 34

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/12/30/1104344929753.html?from=top5&oneclick=true

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"I heard what was going on with the wave and so on, and I just thought it was a bit of an exaggeration," said Peter Anstiss, 48, from Sydney, as he shared a beer with his brother in a bar off Patong Beach's main drag. "I didn't think too much about it."

Post 35

more videos
http://www.waxy.org/archive/2004/12/28/amateur_.shtml

Post 36

My family and I gave $300 to the Red Cross... I wanted a new video card, but it's a bit hard for me to do that when people have lost everything, so... I'll battle along with my ATI a bit longer.

This is some far out stuff... more people killed than in both Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined (~100,000 for both)...

Madness. :(

Post 37

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How Did Animals Escape Tsunami?

JOHANNESBURG -- Wild animals seem to have escaped the Indian Ocean tsunami, adding weight to notions they possess a sixth sense for disasters, experts said Thursday.

Sri Lankan wildlife officials have said the giant waves that killed over 24,000 people along the Indian Ocean island's coast seemingly missed wild beasts, with no dead animals found.
"No elephants are dead, not even a dead hare or rabbit," said H.D. Ratnayake, deputy director of Sri Lanka's Wildlife Department. "I think animals can sense disaster. They have a sixth sense. They know when things are happening."

The waves washed floodwaters up to two miles inland at Yala National Park in the ravaged southeast, Sri Lanka's biggest wildlife reserve and home to hundreds of wild elephants and several leopards.

"There has been a lot of anecdotal evidence about dogs barking or birds migrating before volcanic eruptions or earthquakes. But it has not been proven," said Matthew van Lierop, an animal behavior specialist at Johannesburg Zoo. "There have been no specific studies because you can't really test it in a lab or field setting."

Other authorities concurred with this assessment. "Wildlife seem to be able to pick up certain phenomenon, especially birds ... there are many reports of birds detecting impending disasters," said Clive Walker, who has written several books on African wildlife.

Animals certainly rely on the known senses such as smell or hearing to avoid danger such as predators. The notion of an animal sixth sense -- or some other mythical power -- is an enduring one which the evidence on Sri Lanka's battered coast is likely to add to.

The Romans saw owls as omens of impending disaster and many ancient cultures viewed elephants as sacred animals endowed with special powers or attributes.

The tsunami was triggered by an earthquake in the Indian Ocean Sunday, killing tens of thousands of people in Asia and East Africa.
Source: http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,66148,00.html

Post 38

I reckon animals are just sensitive to UHF waves that generally preceed things such as earthquakes.

Post 39

Quote from Wrathlon:
I reckon animals are just sensitive to UHF waves that generally preceed things such as earthquakes.

Congratulations, thats the stupidest thing i've read today

Post 40

If its not UHF...its something else...its some sort of wave, I read about it somewhere, its something that only sensitive equipment can pick up and apparently animals, as the theory went...not my opinion, just relaying what I read....and no it wasnt on the web, it was in a book somewhere :p

Edit: And dont anyone dare say tidal wave/tsunami

Post 41

Michael Schumacher has given "0mil (USD?) to the Tsunami aid.

Post 42

Site with a large collection of videos & photos of Before and After, and the devastation.

http://www.waveofdestruction.org

Post 43

Quote from Jay:
Michael Schumacher has given "0mil (USD?) to the Tsunami aid. yeah, i heard "3 mil.. (AUD?)

Post 44

10mil USD would be about 13mil AUD... I also heard 13mil AUD.

Post 45

I heard the US Government donated 300 million.

Post 46

350 by us gov

Post 47

It's amazing how much the rich arab countries have donated... $25mill for Saudi Arabia is, I believe, the top figure... sorry... but that's pathetic.

Post 48

Its pathetic but you also have to remember that they are not directly involved with this so any donation on their behalf is meant to be seen as good. Every little donation counts and can help save a life so it doesn't matter whos giving what as long as they are giving IMO.

Post 49

You'd think they'd want to help out another muslim country...

In comparison, an event was held in Palestine recently, to fundraise for suicide bombers (to purchase the equipment necessary to kill as many people as possible), that brought in over "50million in one night.

So I still believe $25million is pathetic.

Post 50

Big difference tho Seqo in how Middle Eastern Muslims see themselves vs Asian Muslims.....

Post 51

I can see America asking for the money back later on when they're back on track....

Post 52

Quote from Ph3n0m3n0n:
I can see America asking for the money back later on when they're back on track....

It wouldnt surprise me

Post 53

Howards promise of "billion over 5 years showed up the UN and US... now whos running the show!! :p

Post 54

Go AUS..........

Post 55

Quote from Seqo:
You'd think they'd want to help out another muslim country...

The concept of generosity, and even sympathy is based on a Judeo-Christan set of morals. Muslim countries have an entirely different belief system about this sort of thing.

Post 56

^^^^^^^^^

Hohoho, here we go. And how exactly do you know this? Read the Koran last night before bed did we?

Post 57

My point is that if these countries had the same concept of generosity, they'd do so. It's not like they're strapped for cash or anything, just look at the oil economy of Brunei.