I know Minorci started a topic about this in the Hardware forum but im starting one here :D
Anyway, couple of questions, mainly for Sly but anyone else with input please say.
Ok Sly first up you got any pics of the layout of your watercooled setup, seeming you have a case practically identical to that of me and minroci. I have seen a few other setups for cases like the PC60, etc. but I wanna see a nice clear view before I make any decision to watercool.
Also anyone know where I can buy Innovatek waterblocks from in Australia? Would be a help, I like their nice simple look, and ease of use.
Minorci if you do your water cooling kit I'll be doing the same as you and will use a Eheim 1046 pump also. they seem to be rated highly but the 240v is pissing me off :D Are all pumps in AC ?
You might also want to speak to Bill at BitsnBytes - he had a watercooling setup in a Lian Li PC60 - find out what he used, cos I don't think he got much better temps than with simple air-cooling - in fact, with the same CPU, I got better cooling with my Coolermaster HHC-001 than he did with water-cooling (This was about a year ago or so).
im just waiting for funds to come through, gah i cant get all technical cause i dont know much about the properties of water, but in the theory incased in my head, water cooling does achieve much cooler temps in the cooler climates, but runs equal with air cooling up here, but the adv of water cooling is for oc'ing.. i think water has the ability to take more heat away quicker than an air cooling job? and plus you can soup water up by thinning it out therefore water travels quicker over the water block.
There are a few methods to thin water out, it has been practiced using an alcohol based liquid, ethanol etc, but obviously there is a fire hazard and if it isnt properly sealed its a waste of time
Blah those innovatek blocks are FKN expensive, 300 dollars or something.. i had a look on tomshardware on their cooling demo they did they used all innovatek stuff and converting the price back over it is fairly expensive.
Hey xaine we still on for that case mod in the chrissy holidays? im still searchin for a likely candidate.
[Image: http://www17.tomshardware.com/howto/20020701/images/26.jpg] The chipset and GPU water blocks too :D
Yeah thats them =)
I had a feeling they might have been, although I can see a full kit for about $400 - 500 and yeah I know that is a lot of money - but its so darn NICE! 8)
Hmm me not even going to go near a peltier :D Although it would be lovely, way to much hassle, power hungry, condensation, etc. But it would run damn COLD!
in my opionion warter cooling isnt all that great its a big risk just so u can overclock i think its better to upgrade what ever u are looking to overclock insted or watercooling it and making it run faster and the tnest little leek can fuck up hundreds of $ of hardwars ask rainwulf :wink:
Quote from Sa' Martok: First risk is if you use un-distilled water Well youd be pretty stupid to run un-distilled water wouldn't ya :shock:
Knight to your comment, It is recommended that in a water cooling environment to use DISTILLED water. Why? Cos if the system so happened to leak it wouldn't short-circiut all your nice expensive hardware. Thankgod for distilled water :P
So using distilled water removes the risk of shorting your hardware in case of a leak. But there are other probs that water in general has, and esspecially when its going to be at a temp of about 25 - 35 id say maybe higher not to sure. As it is around the optimum temp for bacteria other probs can occur and prolly will over time. So what this causes is Biological Growth (growing of algae and shit like that). And the other prob quite obviously is "corrosion".
But again there is always a cure, presenting...... [Image: http://www.pcca.com.au/images/wetter/ww-sm.jpg] Goto http://www.pcca.com.au/waterpumps.html to find it. Used in engines but has exactly the same use in a water cooled system :D
Distilled Water + Water Wetter and your water cooling system should be pretty well safe or at least MUCH safer than what most people think.
Yeah that would be my second option after the Innovatek water blocks.
Silverprop Cyclone 5 water block. [Image: http://www.pccasegear.com.au/images/spc5b5.jpg] And good thing is they Aussie made too :D
I'll definatly go with their radiator, Silverprop Silverstorm Radiator, no matter which way i go with water cooling. Why? Cos its nicely sized and seems to be fairly common in most "good" watercooling kits. [Image: http://www.pcca.com.au/images/silverstorm/ss.jpg][Image: http://www.silverprop.com/sp/assets/ssf.jpg]
Quote from Wortel: sif need watercooling anyway. Darwin is too hot to even bother.
That's a good reason TO use watercooling. Since the ambient air temperature is so high anyway, why wouldn't you want to use the most effective cooling solution you can to get your CPU temp as close to ambient as possible?
I think the only prob with water cooling is its price. It's a fairly safe thing to setup (if you know what your doing), the results should mostly be better than air cooling, certainly in comparison to sound like Darkwolf said it will be. It also looks damn pretty, a UV reactant dye running through the water, going through clear tubes, under a UV light mmmm pretty 8) And its also a cool hobby/project you can have fun with to, certainly does impress people seeing a water cooled system.
hay yeah monorcie u can bring the crownies and beer bong ill bring the burbon and sequ can bring that sake stuff and blah hrrrmmm whats can he bring? oo the coke :P
Quote from Minorci: Well blah want to get together over the xmas break and do up our systems? :) we might get a discount for bulk purchase? :D
If you guys are gonna get and set up a GOOD, HIGH quality watercooling rig suitable for putting in an Enermax FS-710B case (same as Angel's), then I might be interested. But only after the 9th of January (that's when I get back from Adelaide).
What's this about inert fluid for it? Might be smarter in case of a leak, as long as it doesn't perish rubber.
Quote from Darkwolf: [quote:3a10d5bbc8="Minorci"]Well blah want to get together over the xmas break and do up our systems? :) we might get a discount for bulk purchase? :D
If you guys are gonna get and set up a GOOD, HIGH quality watercooling rig suitable for putting in an Enermax FS-710B case (same as Angel's), then I might be interested. But only after the 9th of January (that's when I get back from Adelaide). [/quote:3a10d5bbc8]
I now have a Lian Li PC60 though :D no matter though if I can fit one n this case then your sure as hell to fit one in that enermax case :P
Quote from Seqo_ae: [quote:9f50d99784="Darkwolf"] Enermax FS-710B case (same as Angel's), then I might be interested. But only after the 9th of January (that's when I get back from Adelaide).
Darkwolf.
i am now the proud owner of angels enrmax case.....w00t!
hahaha u will notice in a few weeks u'r arms beefing up from carring this heavey fucker around i am big cause i have done it for 6months i wanna get a smaller case but no one is able to hook me up to a place that sells eem :(
and you can get an enermax aluminium case for about 282$ for the same size as your current one. bit much but that way the whole thing acts as a heatsink.
or there is plastic...
www.cws.net.au www.cougar.com.au www.eyo.com
just browse through the cases sections at these places knight and you are certain to find one. if you are unsure about something then ring them or email them.
knight lieks this case http://www.thermaltake.com/products/AquariusII/aquariusII.htm the noise level is 22dBa i would love a computer that quiet and thats nice and cool