winxp looooonnngggg boot up times

I am running winxp and have just recently installed office xp, Since the install the of office it takes over 1min for xp to boot,

It is giving me the shits. Has anyone else had this drama, and if so do you no how to fix it.

System specs,
duron 700
msi6340m pro main board
327mb ram
40gig hd (new)
asus gforce2 mx200
pioneer 16x dvd
acer 8x4x32 burner

In the START bar go to START>PROGRAMS>STARTUP.
In there will be a shortcut to 'Microsoft Office'.
Delete it because anything in this "STARTUP" folder will be loaded automatically when windows boots up. This will NOT delete Office off your computer. You should notice that Windows will load faster. Also Win2000/XP has a higher RAM usage than Win95/98/ME.

does anyone really use winXP to need to worry about loading times? (i'm a win98/2000 guy myself)

upgrading to DDR memory helps [Blocked image]

so would anything but a duron [Blocked image]

(apart from a P4)

lol Martok, mine *is* a Duron [Blocked image]

yeah thats my point eg:upgrade from a duron to anything [Blocked image]

OMG he just said it just started to slow.. IOW it was loading faster b4.. upgrading the processor wont do shit if theres a problem with the software.. Duron is a great processor SPECIALLY for the price.. Hell i would rather a Duron then ANY intel cpu..

I run XP on other machine and yes it is a bit slow on start up, however it is stable and so far no programs crash or lock up.

My suggestion is to start computer, go get a cold/warm drink come back and it is ready to go.

Good grief..

Why bash the Duron.. Read any sites reviews on them.. they rock.

They are so good for the price, I would be supprised if anyone with a IQ would buy a Celeron or P3 these days..

The standard now for reviews is pick speed X in a duron, and compare it to X+1 size increment in a celery to even get close..
And still the duron wins..

And think real world too..
Evo LAN. Foxesden 32 player CS server. 1100Duron with 256Mb ram.

Durons rock HARD..

Now lets try to help Wiseman here..

OK I run 2K and office 2K on a 466 celery and 128Mb ram. Yes it bites, its my work POS machine..

Now IS it just since U installed Office XP that its become constipated ?

If so does someone know what its doing ? as it has to be office clagging it up..

CrazyC ? ZeReaper ? anyone ?

I run neither XP or Office XP. So I am no help here..

Wiseman - come and see me at DGA (only because I can't remember off the top of my head without digging around about the network settings I talk about below).

Firstly, there's a utility called BootVIS (which I'll give you at DGA), which cut my boot time from 45 seconds to 27 seconds (it rearranges programs that are required during booting so that it boots faster).

But having said that, it sounds like there's some network settings that need to be switched off - there's nothing about your hardware that should be giving you those long boot-up times, so if you like, we can go through your startup settings, and see what the problem is there.

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My suggestion is to start computer, go get a cold/warm drink come back and it is ready to go.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">hehe - that's how my coffee addiction started many moons ago :D

Thanks for the help. The Booting problem got that bad i had to unistall office xp and then defrag the drive, After that no problems at all.

Seems funny that the drive is only 3 weeks old and it needed a defrag, I do not think that was the problem i think it is still office,

The world is noit going to come to a end if i do not have it installed but it is nice to have it there still, just in case i need to write a death letter to my boss or something.

Defrag under windows xp said that the drive was only 3 percent defragmented, That would not cause it to tkae over a min to boot windows, one would think.

Dont pick on the duron's Never had a days trouble from my 700mhz chip, i get over 4000 3dmarks (3dmark2000) even with the crusty gf2, I can run everything i want to thats all that matters doesnt it.

Would like to buy superfast athlonxp but my wife will nail my balls to the front door if i spend anymore money on this thing.

I am still open to suggestions for the boot problem, see you all at the lan.

Wiseman

Pay the extra $50 and get an Athlon thats twice the speed you tight arses.

hahaha odyssey shut up....

you buy a duron because you are on a budget dipshit, you want to SAVE that $50 because guess what.... that is the whole POINT.

plus it is about "50 for a 1ghz duron now, if you were to find a T-bird of the same speed anywhere the price would be over $220.

another thing, if you are say...into sound over gaming or anything like that, then that $50 - 70 can be saved and used on a soundcard....and that is just one example...

think before you post...

T-Bird = gay
you = tight ass

Ody.. Im hardly a tight arse..

U buy equipment dependant upon application.

I have a 1800+, a 1200c, and the 1100Duron.

I buy whats needed for the application.

Durons are the equivalent of a P3. With a bit extra on top.

Its just smart use of money, thats all. In my case, I really didnt need another Athlon, I built up the machine solely as a LAN server. The max players that CS can have ( and U have to modify a lot of maps to get it this high ) is 32.
The Duron handled 32 players.

As I said buy dependant upon application.

My 2 cents

I run XP yes, on a 1900+ with 512ddr so any of you tell me my computer sux i'll slap you out

I dont run officeXp, but I do run alot of other software

I rip DVD's (am I allwoed to say that), oh, of course only ones that I own. So there is alot of programs there but none of them start up with my computer

When I first installed winxp that little blue loading bar, used to get 3/4 of the way across the screen and then I was in windows (that was schweet) but since I installed alot of other software it has increased my boot time dramatically

I have the following programs start with my computer

CloneCD
MSN
Norton Antivirus
Logitech Keyboard drivers
Download Accelerator Plus
StyleXP

so as you can see it does load a few memory suckers in my boot time, I cannot remember how long it takes me to start up computer, I will test it after this post

The one thing I found that increased my boot time the MOST, was settings inside my BIOS, now as you have not stated what sort of motherboard you are using then I am not much help, besides I only know how to tweak the mobo im using which is a soltek drv2 (come on fellas, applause) so you'd have to talk to someone that specialises in your motherboard

Now you think that since you uninstalled officeXP that it's all good, but what happens if you need office, your boot time will jump again, plus it slowly increases with the programs you install anyway

some things to do to reduce boot time are the following

You can remove things that you dnot REALLY need from the startup menu under programs

Right Click on my computer, choose manage, click on services and applications down the bottom, click open services, read the properties of each of these little suckers and debate with yourself what you dont need, for example, do you really need the service that records serial numbers of any portable media player that is hooked up with your computer? I think not, when you find these services (should be at LEAST 10) the double click on it, stop the service (not all can be stopped but it doesn't matter) and choose disable then click OK

A good idea to do is to write down what services you are stopping/disabling so if you do the wrong service (I disabled all sound once windows booted LOL) then you can quite easily fix it, this should do a fair bit for your computer

if this helps gimme a yell and let me know, but like I said, the massive performance increase will be with setting up your motherboard to handle your RAM to it's optimum performance

I'll turn my computer off now, and start timing as soon as I hit the power button, others are welcome to do so as well

Good Luck

From the instant I hit my power button until windows got me to my log on screen and I could type, was exactly 45 seconds

LOL, thats pathetic, I have over 120GB of crap on my system, LOL

Raker got 41.2 seconds to his log on screen with winXP

You also have to remember, some systems (non-standard ie. Hewlett Packard, compaq etc...) have better loading times because they are LESS user friendly and skip alot of settings at the POST because they SUCK!

[ 26 May 2002, 09:13 PM: Message edited by: ZeReaper ]

Twice the speed ? i dont think so.. Faster Yes twice.. i dont think so.. and tbirds are not gay.. only a truly STUPID person who humps intels leg says shit like that.

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only a truly STUPID person who humps intels leg says shit like that.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">He dun have an intel flamm [Blocked image]

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Originally posted by Sly_Fox:
Durons are the equivalent of a P3. With a bit extra on top.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Um no, equal to a P3 Coppermine close but not close enough, but nowhere near a Tualatin. A bit extra on top, I think your comparing the Duron with DDR to a C3 with SD.

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Originally posted by Flammable:
....only a truly STUPID person who humps intels leg says shit like that.<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">My first CPU was a K5 100, and then I went to K6-2 500, K6-III+ 450, P3 1GHz, Duroff 900 (temporary solution for about a week) then my Athlon XP1900. Can you say that you have had the same experience with AMD’s Flam?
BTW the P3 1GHz was much faster with 133 FSB than the Duroff 900 with 200 FSB! Didn’t have a heat problem with the tiny stock HSF and overclocked well.

WTF does experience have to do with AMD CPUS now ?

Even if the tualtin cains the duron, the tualitin was about $700 + while a duron wouldnt be much more than "20

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Even if the tualtin cains the duron, the tualitin was about $700 + while a duron wouldnt be much more than "20 <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Ok firstly Flamm, your talking about the Pentium 3 Tualatin 1.4 GHz Dual CPU support

I bought a 1.2 GHz Tualatin for $200 about 2 months ago, didnt need a HS+F either cos it comes with one that is more than sufficient.

Also i think what Odyssey means is that he has experienced using different types of CPU's and has more of an idea of what runs well and what doesn't

I can get both Celeron 1.3 and Duron 1.3 for "73.00. The Tualatin is the P3/Celeron core. We have discused this before that the Celeron and P3 share the same core...remember?

[ 27 May 2002, 09:46 PM: Message edited by: Odyssey ]

Guys who cares hey, sound ike a bunch of GEEKS [Blocked image]

PREPARE TO BE TERMINATED :cool:

Thanks for the info sherminater

This Thread is getting intense i think,

Found the problem , The hard drive is completley fucked, bad sectors everywhere. Thanks for the help everyone

As far as Spending money of pc shit goes, You buy what u can afford, If you can afford $500 on a new cpu go for it, So dont fuckin hang shit on the little people who are running slower machines because not everyone can afford to blow big mobs of cash on computers. Dont fuckin call people tight arses because they cant afford the extra $50 becasue the have have other financial committments.

Oydessy tell me where in the world i can get a bloody athlon for a extra $50 on the duron price. ????

There thats my rant.

Wiseman,

Well in Melbourne (eastern suburbs) i can get a duron 1.3 GHz(200 FSB) for "79 or the XP 1700(1.47 GHz 266 FSB) for $239.

That's $60

Agreed wisemen.. as far as $ for performance goes u got the number..

Do not flame people because of that.. Athlons used to be alot more expencieve than Durons.

And quite frankly.. He has a right to buy what ever he wants and to be not flamed..

[ 28 May 2002, 05:16 PM: Message edited by: Flammable ]

At the moment i have a budget of around "20.

If i can sell my server case and hub by this week i would be looking at getting cpu straight away.

I blew the budget by buying 40gig hard disk a month ago and buying a new case last week.

I really want a 1.2gig duron i think "20 should be enough i hope.

wISEMAN HOW MUCH YOU WILLING TO PAY FOR A cpu?