Apple most reliable

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Post 1

Apparently Apple computers are the most reliable of ll PC's, least likely to have problems :)

Post 2

thats because no one buys them because theyre crap and ugly, which means no complaints :)

Post 3

Its because no program with bugs is supported by applez :D

Post 4

Actually the only problems i see with Apple computers is:
1. Not many games for them
2. Cost
3. Standard mouse comes with only one button :(

The main reasons i would get one (and their so great) are
1. They are 64 bit processors and despite only being clocked at around the 1 GHz mark, tbey are just as powerful as most current 32 bit prcessors
2. A VooDoo 5 runs good in them :P
3. They only have one fan (which hovers over the processor(s) and is on the side of the case), so they are damn quite
4. Plus they look cool, especially with their standard LCD monitor.
5. You can get a dual processor one ready made.

Post 5

Amiga computers forever!

Post 6

*slaps KC*
are you stupid or something
a apple for crying out loud!

Post 7

G5 and Voodoo 5 sounds like a good comp to me :P

Uber leet :)

Post 8

Quote from MARTOK:
Apparently Apple computers are the most reliable of ll PC's, least likely to have problems :)
Hey Martok, a Mac isn't a PC it's a Mac. :wink:

1. Yes the Voodoo5 does run in them and so deos nVidia and ATi products. (GeForce3 debut on Mac's before PC's)
2. A Microsoftcock mouse will work on a Mac.
3. Apple have had a 64bit processor on the market for bloody ages (AMD and Intel are so far behind).
4. The G5 will be out really soon.
5. They already have a 128bit processor in the pipeline.
6. You can play TA and Stronghold on them.
7. They actually run.

Post 9

Quote from Odyssey:
[quote:0436bf86ba="MARTOK"]Apparently Apple computers are the most reliable of ll PC's, least likely to have problems :)
Hey Martok, a Mac isn't a PC it's a Mac. :wink:

1. Yes the Voodoo5 does run in them and so deos nVidia and ATi products. (GeForce3 debut on Mac's before PC's)
2. A Microsoftcock mouse will work on a Mac.
3. Apple have had a 64bit processor on the market for bloody ages (AMD and Intel are so far behind).
4. The G5 will be out really soon.
5. They already have a 128bit processor in the pipeline.
6. You can play TA and Stronghold on them.
7. They actually run.[/quote:0436bf86ba]

Do people not use them for personal computers? :)
My real point about the V5 is more that you could specifically get a V5 in it :)

Oh and TA and Stronghold arent a selling point, Diablo 2 is though :)

Post 10

New AMD 64 bit processors coming out sound good for me to wait for
and rad 256 mb graphics card am good for me :P

Post 11

Quote from MARTOK:
Oh and TA and Stronghold arent a selling point, Diablo 2 is though :)
Yes you can either run OpenGL or Glide in Diablo on Mac's stead of DirectX and Glide on PC's.

Quote from psy_ave:
New AMD 64 bit processors coming out sound good for me to wait for
Yes but AMD and Intel are moving from 32 to 64bit when Apple is moving from 64 to 128bit.

Post 12

I had an Apple & a Amiga.
Apple was hard to upgrade & cost an arm plus a leg, not many games also.
Amiga did rule & still do but people keep hacking & cracking the new
games which in the end killed the Amiga's. If only they would buy the games & support the product it would have survived & most likely be the best computer console ever.

Did you know the first motion picture using computer graphics was done on a Amiga which film was it does anyone know.?

Another thing try making a game which only fits on a 512k floopy disk on any new computer including it's os. A game writen in under 512k on a Amiga still belows the rest out of the water believe me.

Post 13

From what I understand, programs need to be re-written to take advantage of a 64-bit processor otherwise they could infact be slower. And as PCs have a far wider software base it'd be harder and take more time for the support of 64-bit processors to come in.

Post 14

it depends on how the processor manages threads - theoretically a 64 bit processor could simultaneously run two 32 bit applications. This may be possible for true multi-threaded O/S's such as BeOS and *nix.

Post 15

And OS X

Post 16

Quote from MARTOK:
And OS X
OS X has got a BSD UNIX kernel.

It does lack many of the additional programs that are usually a part of Unix though (such as X, compilers, etc), which would classify it as Unix-based.

Post 17

Apple.....I'm hungry :P

Post 18

Quote from ruin:
From what I understand, programs need to be re-written to take advantage of a 64-bit processor otherwise they could infact be slower. And as PCs have a far wider software base it'd be harder and take more time for the support of 64-bit processors to come in.

Some programs simply need to be recompiled (using the new processors 64-bit instruction set), others may need to be modified to take advantage of new features.

Alot of my major software could be simply recompiled (some may require a *little* modification), as it is engineered to run on existing 64-bit processors (eg. UltraSPARC III and G4 processors).

Out of curiosity, were Sun products considered in that review?

Post 19

No, just desktop PC's or computers for those who say Apples arent PC's :)

Apple got 86% reliability, followed by Dell of all companies with like 84%, IBM at 80% and non branded ones at 70 something

Post 20

My 286 that I had was super reliable until the screen blew up after 14 years of stellar service.

But like an apple, you couldnt use it for much.

Reliability of computers means jack.

Post 21

Another thread on the matter.. http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?s=&threadid=95062

Post 22

Apples can handle multiple threads at the same time..

something only AMD and Intel wish they could do :P

seriously, if i had the money to be spending on an Apple i would...damn those G5's are awesome...

and you can get tricky iPOD's too ;) (the best MP3 player in the business imho)

although the iPod is coming to Windows soon....:|

Post 23

Quote from Seqo_ae:
Apples can handle multiple threads at the same time..

something only AMD and Intel wish they could do :P

seriously, if i had the money to be spending on an Apple i would...damn those G5's are awesome...

and you can get tricky iPOD's too ;) (the best MP3 player in the business imho)

although the iPod is coming to Windows soon....:|

Windows software was released (bundled with the ipod) over a month ago.

not sure what mean by handling multiple threads, thats what multitasking is -- x86 chips handle that just fine. if you mean simultaneously, well thats a bit hard in a linear system, hence parallel computing (multiple cpu). if a single apple chip can process two threads simultaneously, great for them, apparently thats what intel is working on too, i hear ( i don't pay attention to this stuff much ).

Post 24

Quote from paladin:

Windows software was released (bundled with the ipod) over a month ago.

not sure what mean by handling multiple threads, thats what multitasking is -- x86 chips handle that just fine. if you mean simultaneously, well thats a bit hard in a linear system, hence parallel computing (multiple cpu). if a single apple chip can process two threads simultaneously, great for them, apparently thats what intel is working on too, i hear ( i don't pay attention to this stuff much ).Yes i believe it is dubbed the Itanic and Itanic 2 :)

Post 25

Oh wouldn't it be a tragedy should they sink like the Titanic.

you're not referring to HyperThreading..? This is currently IIRC available on Xeon processors and will be included in the next version of the desktop chip.

Post 26

Quote from Imitation:
Oh wouldn't it be a tragedy should they sink like the Titanic.

you're not referring to HyperThreading..? This is currently IIRC available on Xeon processors and will be included in the next version of the desktop chip.

lol thats why their dubbed the Itanic (not by Intel ;)). They are really called the Itanium and Itanium 2 but cos their so crap everyone calls them the Itanic :)

Post 27

Lol yeah I know about Itanium.. Just I read what you posted and was like 'Okay since when the $#@% did Itanic exist?'.. oh well.. moving right along now. :lol:

Post 28

From what I heard it was more Intels asking price that caused problems (Itaniums still cost a few grand for the CPU)