WC3 server - Which is the best race debate?

I've been palying on my own WC3 since year 12 started, so i dont get hooked on GU until each school holiday turns up.

Anyhow, my point of this post is, what do you think is the best race and why... or your fav race... and also order your races out.

I think the best race is Night Elf mainly because at level 3 True Shot they have a constant +45% DMG (unlike ORCS who have only a 15% chance of doing extra DMG), so Grens are quite good with them and any gun is great to use with the extra DMG.
Mirror DMG is just a little slut tactic to have when you use your ELF. Anyone that shoots gets DMG back... so when you see them they do DMG to themselfs and so do you :)
Tangle Roots is the next thing i get when building the ELF, because it realy pisses people off :)
Envasion is the diablo 2 version of Dodge :P This skill is the ELFs weakness i think, if you dodge a bullet then you cant get mirror DMG on it :(

Also with ELF Mask Of Death goes really well with your Mirror DMG and True Shot.

I would order my races in

ELF
Undead
Orc
Human

I'm actually really surprised this thread didnt come up sooner - reckon you can edit it to include a vote?

I picked human at the start - gonna stick with it till level 10.. they might not be the best - but they are mad fun :D

This post DID come up already.

Yeah I'm pretty sure there's a thread about this in the wc3 forum.

and wow...way to stick it it the wrong forum...

Undead: Support race
Human: Scavenger race
Orc: Tank race
Night Elf: Tank race

it depends on ur playing style and what map, atm im building all four races so i can play on any map and still go decent

(btw if u want more detail into why i call each race as it is, tell me :P)

orc

Hmm... added to this... how much XP do you need for level 10. It seems to double, and for level 8 you need 12800, so level 9 should be 25600, and thus making level 10 52200 or something. Tell me that's not true :cry:

Back to the post, I like them all. I want them all at level 10 (gonna be hard + time consuming, plus the server is always full!). ATM I have 2 at 7, and 1 at 4. I haven't even started the Night Elf.

And damnit I need help getting this signature thing happening!

Well i'll put a very simple arguement up to what is the best race, the top ranking player :D is night elf, so hence night elf kick ass :roll:

and...

Night elf : Sniping race
undead : rushing race
Human : camping race
orc : tank race
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note: these are just my feeling on how the characters were designed to be played, and can be used in any manor that suits you...
and i'm pretty sure level 10 is 51,200 xp or something close to that

Dark Elves by definition are.

well i hate it when you kill someone then they explode and kill you!!!! that really pisses me off, or even worse when someone else kills him and he blows up and kills you!!! i hate the grenades that kill u instnalty.. they piss me off too... ummm what was the topic again??? :roll:

orc all the way and then undead....

ORC
UNDEAD
HUMAN
ELF

nah its got to be ......................

ELF - best for iceworld i reckon
ORC - nade spammers
UNDEAD - rushing thingy
HUMAN - for lame campers

yes i agree orc are nade spammers :D

if you're a good enough player it shouldnt really matter what race you are but if youd have to choose id probably say night elves are because of the range of good skills they give you. but then orcs have critical grens which are pretty good (even if they do piss u off no end) and thats not even their ultimate. being humans and invisible is pretty cool but teleporting kinda sucks :P undead is 1337 coz they can jump around lots and run superhappyfuntime. i guess u shouldn't really just stick to one race. have fun and mix it up. just like people who always awp suck ;) and should use some variety in weapons, its always good to play differently and muck around with the different skills. play for the fun of it not to be "the best" although if that does come as a result of it then that should be a bonus.

I dunno but i think its the way u use ur race
but if u wanna put it that way

Undead
Human
Night Elf
Orc <--- i accidentally stuffed it up cuz wen i was about to select a skill the select team option came up argh >.< i h8 it wen it does that

ok just put it this way undead r tha best !!!

ok just put it this way undead r tha best !!!

nah undead are fair lame in some maps

undead is the best cause if ur rooted for health u can just shoot osmeone and get it back
also u can rush ppl real good
and if they get u u just blow up in there face

thats if ure even close enough to them....... and that health sucking thing is only really useful IF u even hit them and kill

I think different races are suited to different maps. It also depends on your playing type. Thats why I level all the races :D

.. Undead are easily the best.

level 3 vamp aura is da bomb.

1 hs will pump your health back to 100 hp :wink:
keeps you alive better then evasion and that stupid human skill that adds 30 + hp. If your a good shot you will not die easily :lol:

Best race is Night Elf they have the best magic and shit im only 6000 xp away from level 10 its taking forever to get the bloody 51200

Orc: n00b
Undead: 2nd best
Human: orite but too many n00bs camp too much lol

I gotta say for me it is

ORC - uber nades are fun
NIGHT ELF/UNDEAD - need to get more levels in them :P
HUMAN - campy race really, invs is a pain in my orc butt :P

but that is just how i see it

ELFS RULE
UNDEAD OK....
and the rest well they don't do nothing
:lol: :lol: :lol:

it really depends on which map u are playing, at the moment i prefer elf, but undead are probably the best.

Undead - i got lvl 9 - Great rushing, Vampiric Aura is great, gets you all the hp back when you get hs :D

Night Elf - i got lvl 8 - Mostly an all rounder, dodge bullets with evade, True Shot: 40% more dmg each shot, nice

Human - i got lvl 8 - Human have invisibilty, that can be good,

Orc - i got lvl 8 - Grens good, reincarnate is useful, can have awp everyround :P

worst thing about undead is the suicide bomber cant kill more than 1 person!!! its sooo crap when ur surrounded by like 4 ppl. u may as well go orc and just rush holding a gren.
anyways, i got every race at lvl 8 (total experience is above whats needed for a single lvl 10 yay) but im gonna go with night elf all the way now cos they rock

I think some of you people are mad!! :shock: Night elf is a terrible race!!Undead beat the rest!! :D

wots doing hiddendragon, u must be really bored to bring a 6 weeks old thread back alive.......

oh well while im here, i say human is the worst. Whenever theres a few human users around, rounds are bound to be 2-3 mins long due to waiting for invis campers at spawn, not good for a fun cs mod.

Oops! i didn't see how old it was ,oh well!! :mrgreen:

ill chuck in my 2 cents.

elf all the way

evade - one of the best skillz period, i would love to see the look on peoples faces when i evade 2 awp hs from em.

trushot - 1 shot scout kills, need i say more. turns the scout into an awp but better. faster bolt action, lighter weight, more rounds, cheaper, makes for a hell of alot of fun.

thorns - weakest of the elfs skills, but hu can say no to 15% damage returned to ur shooter.

entangle - possible one of the most annoying skills in the game for enemys. leaves them totally vulerable, and if they dont have cover, theres a good chace they are gonna get fucked up. this + scout =ownage

i always buy necklace of immune, whicever race i go, it saves u from certain death in so many situations, sure mask would be nice, but the choise between being pwned by an orc nade before i even see the enemy and not. i prefer not.

i really only use my elf and orc these days. i just cant play the undead anymore, to used to dodgin bullets and doin xtra dam. orc though, they would come in second for me.

Critstrike - makes ur nades have a chance to still kill if the enemy has immune, and when u finger is on the trigger with 600 rounds per minute + the chances of critical stirke are fairly high. of course u cant rely totally on it, but it is still handy.

Super Pwning nades - hu can say no to 6x the damage of a normal nade? the person on the receiving end.

equip recarn - this is the orcs weakest skill, but is very handy. has no offensive power but means u can save ur money easily, even spawn in the first round of a map with the last weapon u had, u know how funny it is having a m4 on the first round?

chain lighting - in my eyes this makes up for un-offensiveness of recarn. mad in the first round, no one has immunes, its time for fun. having 50 health instanly removed lowers one life span considerably. also good for scoping out those pesky human campers, lighting one gun, and it bounces off onto another guy hu u cant see. u see it jump twice and u know to call backup. or go rambo style.

elf and orc are the best classes cause they got active ultimates, as opposed to humans teleport and undead self destruct. since i have a script that uses the "ultimate" command on the press and release of w, a, s, d, shift, ctrl, space, mouse1 and mouse2. i virtually have my ultimate beeping at all times, a piss of if i wanna camp, but a godsend when rushing. dont need to think about pressing the ultimate button leaves more time for ownage.

3rd would be undead

cant be fucked doin a write up on skillz for these 2 cause its 12:00 midnight and i got school tomorro.

4th human

wats up witgh 1.6 and is it going to b wc3 wen they update the servers?

aSame deal I think godfather. Same races and skills, also the same shopmenu = same game.
Every race is still there in support of the undead (who rule), except humans that can continue to sit in the spaawn having a wank. NO BODY LIKES YOU HUMANS. :twisted: :!: :twisted: :!:

so so true.

i hated trying to get my lvl 10 human. i think humans are so easily the worst race. teleport isnt too great except for clearing bomb sites as they explode. the extra hp is useful but even i camped a bit with my human, and i hate human campers. so i made sure not to do it too much.

but agreed. i h8 humans. i know a few people who always camp every round to gain xp. now whats the point of cs when u camp?

use ur extra hp to rush and teleport if u are outnumbered, dont always resort to camping.

yeah gotta love undead and orc :D

elf is damn good too but i never use it. i think ill use it now before server xp goes away.

Camper-Strike - WC3 :twisted:

I enjoy Humans bacause if i rush and then get out numbered and they dont c me i duck around the corner and camp...wait for them to go past ...Is that counted? :roll:

I disagree entirely Agent! When I was levelling up my human (from like 10000XP, level 1 bash, level 2 devotion, level 3 invis & teleport) is started off hard. At 12800 I got level 2 bash, and it was made slightly easier. Bash is by far a very useful skill. It stucks people, and then you let your aimer go down, and then blow them apart. I now have level 3 bash :).

The extra HP is a bliss when there's an avid awper playing. Also, people have a tendency, after hitting you quite a bit, to turn away, not realizing you aren't dead. Invisibility isn't just used for camping, but it makes it lots harder for people to see you. I hardly ever camp, and sometimes forget I'm very transparent. Except on Train, where I camp like a biatch as a CT. I think Human has just as many good points as the other races, except Orc which is ghey. But it's comparitive to Elf. But because of the Human's sucky ultimate, that's a bit of a downside.

On a side note, since I was very use to Undead, I forget about my ultimate altogether. I think when 1.6 comes in, I'll leave my ultimate to last. I barely use it anyway. On every race - Ultimate last. Skills are more important to me as a player.

By the way Godfather, that's known as ambushing. It's ok to hang around a bit if you hear someone.

i am a ultimate whore, thats y i cant play my undead, im to used to having my lighning as orc or entangle as elf, anyone hu comes in my sites ans has no immune is guarentied to get ultimated, and consequently killed.

I guess it's decided... all the races are as good as each other. One could argue the Orc is crap cos everyone buys necklace, but not everyone does. I have a opt for the Ankh when I'm on the losing team. Rifle + Anhk is the first two things I buy, so sometimes I don't buy til the 4th round. Not to mention the times i've forgotten a necklace, the 15% chance that the grenade might hit with Critical Strike sometimes (which is why sometimes you die one hit or receive lots of damage when you have a necklace. It's not a fault, it's Critical Strike). Lots of people don't buy the necklace.

I still believe in luck or bs or something! This one game, I was a Terrorist on Inferno, and was using a TMP and anhk (And about 90 rounds per game). Godfather, you were there. I was owning. Not ONCE was I hit by Crit nade, or suicide bomber. I might've been hit with entangle or chain once or twice. And then some games, I just get mauled! No matter what... what's up with that??

Also, something fun to do, is if you buy a rifle, and armour and a grenade and whatnot, and get killed pretty much straight away, or even if you don't, just switch to Orc when you're dead (im level 8 - level 3 reincarnation) and then next round, change back. There's two things a problem with this.

1) If you change to Human, you only have 100hp

2) You can't change race again that round, which could get you killed.

Either way, it's efficient to save $4000 or whatever.

and undeads selfdestruct thingy dont work

*shakes head* :roll:

Have to say that Elfs are ma favourite cause of the extra damage and an elf nade can rival an orc nade int he right situation but yeh order is:

Night Elf
Undead
Orc
Human (ever tho they're fun)