Live8!

34 public posts in this discussion.

Post 1

http://www.live8live.com

Fox8 - 9pm CST (9:30 EST) tonight.
Channel 9 highlights, Sunday night.
Streaming online here: http://www.aol.co.uk/live8/
TripleM to broadcast live from 11pm - and they stream live to the net ( http://www.mytriplem.com.au/concerts/index.php - Click the "Listen Online" link).

More ways to catch the concert wordwide: http://www.brain-damage.co.uk/news/live8bc.html

Best info I've had so far as to schedule is as follows:

Quote:

We are not sure if Live8 will produce a time schedule prior to the event, but the first details are emerging. We keep you posted.

A production memo of the Philly concert lists Keith Urban going on at 10 a.m. local time, followed at 11 by Sarah McLachlan and Josh Groban, Bon Jovi at 12:15, Rob Thomas at 1:20 p.m., Def Leppard at 2:10 p.m., Toby Keith at 4 p.m., Will Smith at 4:50 p.m., Kanye West at 5:55 p.m., Linkin Park and Jay-Z at 7 p.m., and Stevie Wonder at 8:05 p.m. Saturday sound checks are due to begin with Destiny's Child at 7 a.m. Then it's Jars of Clay (7:30), Dave Matthews (8), Alicia Keys (8:30), Kaiser Chiefs (9), and Black Eyed Peas, with the Marleys (9:30). The big show is to start at noon.

The Berlin show: 14:00 Die Toten Hosen, Wir sind Helden, Söhne Mannheims, 15:00 Katherine Jenkins, BAP, Audioslave and Green Day, 16.00: Juli, Silbermond, Chris de Burgh, 17:00 Brian Wilson, Sasha and a-ha, 18:00 Daniel Powter, Renee Olstead, Joana Zimmer, Juan Diego Florez and Reamonn and at 19:00 Roxy Music, Mittermaier, Faithless and Herbert Grönemeyer.

Neil Young will close out the show in Canada, accompanied by the Fisk University Jubilee Choir. Gates open at 9 a.m. and the first of 21 confirmed acts will begin performing at 11 a.m.

In London all the singers will perform on a 280ft-wide by 60ft-deep revolving stage. But they have been told to keep to a strict time-limit of 15 minutes (7 minutes in Berlin). If they don't, they may find the stage starts moving while they're singing. No time schedule yet, but Sir Paul McCartney will close Live8 with a moving rendition of The Beatles' classic The Long and Winding Road.

Moscow's Live 8 concert will take place on Vasilyevsky Spusk, starting at 6 p.m. on Saturday. The Pet Shop Boys are expected to take the stage at 8 p.m.

The London show has the following line up (set list may change)

1. Paul McCartney/U2: Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
2. U2: One
3. Coldplay: In My Place, Fix You, Bitter Sweet Symphony (duet with Richard Ashcroft)
4. Elton John: Saturday Night's Alright For Fighting, The Bitch Is Back, Children Of The Revolution (duet with Pete Doherty) (introduced on tv by Russian cosmonaut Sergei Krikalev)
5. Dido: Life For Rent, White Flag, Thank You
6. Stereophonics: [TBC]
7. REM: The One I Love, Losing My Religion, Imitation Of Life, Everybody Hurts
8. Ms Dynamite: Dy-namitee, Judgement Day, Redemption Song
9. Keane: Everybody's Changing, Somewhere Only We Know
10. Travis: Sing, Turn, Why Does It Always Rain On Me?
11. Annie Lennox: Walking On Broken Glass, Sweet Dreams
12. UB40: Food For Thought, Red Red Wine
13. Snoop Dogg: [TBC]
14. Razorlight: Somewhere Else, Golden Touch, Vice
15. Madonna: Like A Prayer, Music, Ray Of Light
16. Snow Patrol: Chocolate, Run
17. Joss Stone: I Had A Dream, Super Duper Love
18. Scissor Sisters: Laura, Take Your Mama
19. Velvet Revolver: [TBC]
20. The Killers: [TBC]
21. Sting: Every Breath You Take - to include the lyric "We'll Be Watching You", Message In A Bottle
22. Mariah Carey: Vision Of Love, Make It Happen
23. Robbie Williams: Let Me Entertain You, Rock DJ, Feel, We Will Rock You
24. The Who: Won't Get Fooled Again, Baba O'Riley
25. Pink Floyd: Money, Comfortably Numb, Wish You Were Here
26. Paul McCartney: The Long and Winding Road
27. Grand finale: All the stars will join Sir Paul on stage.

An Audience of many BILLION to watch...

http://www.makepovertyhistory.com.au/

Post 2

I dunno how many of those supposed billions will actually tune in...

There's a few there that i'm looking forward to watching I guess...

Post 3

Pessimist - is there no magnificence in your soul?

Post 4

Yeah was thinking of going out tonight, but no way im going out unless its somewhere with a live8 relay :)

Post 5

no aussie one?

Post 6

Quote from OverDrive:
Pessimist - is there no magnificence in your soul?

Magnificence? Hah. Depends, I'm all for stopping millions from dying of starvation... but giving them a few million dollars is not a cure, it's a bandaid solution to a a very large scale problem that is not caused by lack of finances. (Then there's corruption that makes all that money trickle away into nothingness - but that's a seperate issue and may not be relevant for this even in particular)

Meh, guess I'm a little bit over the hype generated by these kinds of things - "BILLIONS WATCH AS ARTISTS SAVE THE WORLD"... billions watching? I don't know where they get the figures. There's certainly the possibility of billions but the likelihood that even 50% of those tune in is not all that high.

But, like I said: looking forward to Pink Floyd's performance... as well as REM, Dido, Annie Lennox, Sting, Travis, Keane, Coldplay and The Killers. But if I miss it I'm not going to be too devastated.

Post 7

Quote from Seqo:
...but giving them a few million dollars is not a cure, it's a bandaid solution to a a very large scale problem that is not caused by lack of finances. (Then there's corruption that makes all that money trickle away into nothingness - but that's a seperate issue and may not be relevant for this even in particular)

Read up on the issue mate - they are NOT just handing out money...

Post 8

Molly looks well haggard. Must be rough being on your knees all the time.

Post 9

That's why I said that, for this event in particular, it may not be relevant (I didn't know) - I was generalising.

Ok, so they want to:

Quote from Live8 Website:
"By doubling aid, fully cancelling debt, and delivering trade justice for Africa, the G8 could change the future for millions of men, women and children."

Ok, so doubling aid isn't such a bad thing (except it's the same bandaid solution mentioned earlier)...

Cancelling debt? Uh huh. And trade justice? ...

Sounds kind of utopian.

Maybe I'm a pessimist, but even that is not going to turn dictators into saints and it's not going to change the mindset of all those that follow them (Mugabe as an example). I have to admit: these kinds of things are good in a sense, they give hope that something can be achieved, eventually...

it is a very small light at the end of a very long tunnel though.

Post 10

Disregard previous posts...

I'm just ranting about the way current western society handles 'aid' and how we go about helping developing or under-developed countries. Not having a go at Live8... it just comes across as another in a long line of "Give us your money and we'll help starving Ethiopians whilst you enjoy music".

Meh, more beer!

Post 11

the music FINALLY started. god i hate molly meldrum.

Post 12

I'd take hope over apathy anyday...

Post 13

The AOL feed is very sweet, as is the Fox 8..:) Two TV's and Two PC's in sinc..Does this mean i am quadraphonically appreciating the concert.....Another rum i think

Post 14

yeah, the 460kb/s feed from aol is brilliant.

Post 15

Man I gotta wait till tonight at 8 on channel 9 to watch some crappy version most likely...

Post 16

in related news... how hot is dido looking. woo

Post 17

Seqo, while I understand, and generally agree with what you're saying; let's take a step back for just a moment.

Perhaps it is utopian. Perhaps half of what they say is b*llshit. But, they are doing something. As giant or insignificant their efforts may actually aid the cause, it's a whole lot better than sitting around because "giving them a few million dollars is not a cure".

Meanwhile, we get to see some amazing artists deliver hope, and some incredible music.

Post 18

Yeah - **** the apatheic...

Youll never do shit anyway...

Long live the dreamers of the world.

Post 19

Live8

Updates throughout the night... :)

Quote:

UPDATE 2/7 (20.05): More than 3300 (!!!) pageviews so far today, thanks for visiting. Geldof is back on stage in London to show a videofilm on Africa. "We must make poverty history". African girl who survived poverty 20 years ago says "We Africans love you". Meanwhile, Dutch SMS poll shows that Pink Floyd is by far the most popular act of Live8.

UPDATE 2/7 (19.55 CET): The London show is running about 20 to 30 minutes behind schedule. Madonna is next, after Razorlight, who are on now.

UPDATE 2/7 (19.45 CET): Latest rumor: Kanye West and Linkin Park may perform together (along with Jay-Z). Madonna will perform with a choir.

UPDATE 2/7 (19.30 CET): Around 10,000 Russians have turned out in Red Square. That's a smaller crowd than organisers had wished for. The original Live Aid concerts were not seen there because the then Soviet authorities decided not to broadcast them.

UPDATE 2/7 (19.05 CET): Mini reviews of the Barrie (Canada) performances here.

UPDATE 2/7 (19.00 CET): The numbers so far: 1,2 million people in Philadelphia, 200.000 in London, 150.000 in Berlin, 20.000 in Johannesburg and 10.000 in Tokyo. Memorable quotes here.

UPDATE 2/7 (18.50 CET): Live 8 "Sgt. Pepper" Rush-Released Worldwide as Digital Download From Universal Music.

UPDATE 2/7 (18.40 CET): Bratt Pitt in London: "Let us be loud, let us be bold."

UPDATE 2/7 (18.25 CET): Viewers in the UK may want to look at Aolmusic and select other locations. The BBC understandbly sticks to the Hyde Park concert. However, from 10 pm UK viewers will be able to watch the US show. In London Bob Geldof just sang I Don't Like Mondays.

UPDATE 2/7 (18.00 CET): Bob Geldof: 3 billion people watching. Will Smith joins from Philadelphia. "Live8 bigger than the SuperBall or Olympics". All shows have now joined.

UPDATE 2/7 (17.35 CET): BBC just released a final Hyde Park running order. Madonna will be on stage at 18.41 UK time, Sting at 20.26, Mariah Carey at 20.46, Robbie Williams at 21.06, The Who at 21.26, Pink Floyd at 21.59 en McCartney at 22.11. You'll be in bed by midnight if you live in Europe.

UPDATE 2/7 (17.30 CET): There is talk of a mystery guest who will appear at 22.00 CET. Some said it would be Kofi Annan, Secretary-General of the United Nations, but he just got on stage in London for a one sentence statement. Could it be Michael Jackson, who is officially taking a holiday in Bahrain (so we are told)?

UPDATE 2/7 (17.15 CET): Live8's opening anthem Sgt. Pepper with Paul McCartney and U2 is now available as a legal download at iTunes and other online music services. At this moment we only can give you a German page with more information.

UPDATE 2/7 (17.00 CET): There is a new line up for Philadelphia. REM on stage in London.

UPDATE 2/7 (16.45 CET): Chris Evans talks to Midge Ure. The Stereophonics now play London.

UPDATE 2/7 (16.30 CET): Duran Duran just played Rome. Report here. More on today's Berlin show here. First CNN Live8 compilation here.

UPDATE 2/7 (16.20 CET): Bob Geldof introduces "a main supporter", Microsoft mogul Bill Gates. "We know what to do. Some day in the future all people will be able to lead a healthy life." Next, Dido is on stage. Watch for a duet with African star Youssou N'Dour.

UPDATE 2/7 (16.10 CET): Full Dutch tv schedule available here.

UPDATE 2/7 (16.00 CET): Elton John on stage in London with The Bitch Is Back, and continues with mostly uptempo hit classics. Meanwhile, in Philadelphia, rapper Jay-Z and Linkin Park will perform the song Numb/Encore together.

UPDATE 2/7 (15.35 CET): Richard Ashcroft has joined Coldplay for the Verve classic Bitter Sweet Symphony. Lyrics here.

UPDATE 2/7 (15.30 CET): Pink Floyd will play 01.00 CET (24.00 hours British local time). Nelson Mandela will address the crowd in Johannesburg at 17.00 hours CET. Sting will perform the same songs as 20 years ago. Coldplay is next.

UPDATE 2/7 (15.21 CET): Radio Eins in Germany has a play list for the German show (which includes performances of Hyde Park), which is updated after every performance.

UPDATE 2/7 (15.15 CET): U2 playing more songs than anticipated. Bono: "This is our moment, we are looking for justice. We can't fix every problem, but the ones we can, we must."

Post 20

1749, Roger Waters, on reforming Pink Floyd
It seemed like a good opportunity for reconciliation to have a small victory over rancour. Life's too short otherwise.

Post 21

na...na...na...na...na....naaaaaa.........

(Hey Jude....)

Oh what a blast

Post 22

Sounds like it was a great concert. I did my part for poverty by going to bed early so I could work today.

Post 23

What a concert....wow :)

Post 24

A good article about the failure of international aid programs to date:
http://www.nyu.edu/fas/institute/dri/Easterly/File/jpr_article_proofs.pdf

Post 25

Pretty cool concert. Man Robbie W is the man, seriously he is a god. Very cool event, musicwise.

However, as "aid" I think it won't do much. Seqo, right with the bandaid analogy. They are trying to help, which is a shitload more than most people do, but the way they are going about it won't change much in the long run. Do I have a better solution? Shit no, hell, what they're doing now is the best we can come up. Nothing will ever solve the problem short of doing a "US in Iraq" and liberating all these poor countries from their f*cked up g'ments, and rebuilding them first-hand, but that sure as hell isn't gonna happen, and even if it did, we would probably screw it up anyway. Getting rid of 3rd world debt? Well, I haven't looked it up but I doubt most of those countries are making many repayments. 3rd world debt cancellation sounds more like the creditors putting a positive spin on unrecoverable loans than anything else. Wasn't a heap of it waived just a little while ago? But yay live8 paying off whatever is still oweing. Man, the world kind of sucks when you look at it this way.

edit: haha Prez, that's an essay not an article!

Post 26

I don't think that any military solution can solve Africa's economic problems. Realistically, they are just going to have to develop the same way as everyone else: through trade, trade and more trade. If anyone has any doubts as to the destructiveness of outmoded leftist "you're the victim" rhetoric, I refer them to the Zimbabwean Disaster. A country turned from the "wheatbowl of Africa" into a desolate dump, courtesy of Robert Mugabe.

Our own Prime Minister has said repeatedly that the G8 could much more for Africa by removing all agricultural trade barriers and subsidy programs than any program of debt relief. Whether or not you like the man, he's right.

Post 27

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/opinion/mg18625064.600

It's only the start of the article, you need to buy the magazine to read the rest, but I have read it and it talks about many organisations and plans to solve the hard problems of getting Africa out of poverty. The tone of the article suggests there are at least a lot of influencial people in Africa who aren't corrupt and have a vision for the future and it is possible to do with hard work.

Post 28

Yeah, prez I didn't mean that military would be a solution, I just meant that I dont think an economic solution would really work until these countries have true democratic governments. The only ways I can see to bring about that is either military intervention or aid and trade sanctions. Either way you wanna go is going to be pretty damn screwed up for the starving masses.

Ruin, that article looks interesting, I want to read it now :( I really hope the situation has a brighter future than the one I understand it to be, really makes you realise how lucky we are :(

Post 29

Quote from uber tard:
The only ways I can see to bring about that is either military intervention or aid and trade sanctions.

Putting aside military intervention, trade sanctions don't work either. The very things which poorer countries are best at producing - agricultural produce - are heavily protected in most leading western economies.

Post 30

And what if the debt owed to richer countries by these poorer countries is so large that they will never actually be able to pay off the capital and are forever stuck paying interest on the initial loan(Indonesia). Then say, what if the very same countries that loaned that money and collected the interest then put in place trade barriers which didn't allow those borrowing countries to actually trade their way out of debt???

El Prez .. Get a grip. Free market fantasies are just as destructive as communism.

Oh and on a side note. Saying that a particular continent is overrun with dictators or corruption (and they just happen to be 99% black) sort of stinks of a touch of racism.

Post 31

Woah, racism??? Hahaha, troll more mate. How did you get racism from that?! Generally speaking the g'ment situations in 3rd world Africa aren't too flash hot for the people... Am I wrong in saying that? Racism? Sounds like you're just looking for a good ol' fashioned intarweb fight. Haha, well I'm sorry I won't bite this time, better luck next time ;)

Post 32

Africa is going to be screwed for a long long time. Kids who are growing up there now arent learning anything but how to kill people and how to screw over your neighbor. When they grow up, they'll be doing exactly what their parents are doing...Look at the middle east, same shit been going on for years despite all sorts of proposed fixes by western countries.

Cancel the debt, lower trade barriers, then let them sort themselves out is the best thing that can be done for them.

Post 33

Quote from iscariot:
And what if the debt owed to richer countries by these poorer countries is so large that they will never actually be able to pay off the capital and are forever stuck paying interest on the initial loan(Indonesia).

Read the article I linked to. Blame is very difficult to assign to any one party.

Part of the reason that thirld world countries struggle to pay off their debts is because they have what are, quite frankly, bad loans. The money has not made an impact and has not promoted much in the way of development.

Quote:
Then say, what if the very same countries that loaned that money and collected the interest then put in place trade barriers which didn't allow those borrowing countries to actually trade their way out of debt???

My point was and still is that it's hard to raise trade barriers when there's not much trade going on. Especially since the industry where sanctions would be most painful - agriculture - is already protected. These countries already face 'sanctions'. The USA and the EU just think of it as protecting their own farmers.

Quote:
El Prez .. Get a grip. Free market fantasies are just as destructive as communism.

Lending on a vast scale to governments, and trade sanctions, are far closer to communism than they are to the free market, fantastic or otherwise.

Quote:
Oh and on a side note. Saying that a particular continent is overrun with dictators or corruption (and they just happen to be 99% black) sort of stinks of a touch of racism.

So we can't call them tyrants or scumbags? Must we instead call them humanity-challenged? Democratically deficient? Get a grip.

Post 34

Quote from iscariot:
overrun with dictators or corruption (and they just happen to be 99% black) sort of stinks of a touch of racism.

Then there's the countries not predominantly black:

Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco etc. Yet, funnily enough!! they're filled with corruption or run by dictators.

What about countries where the population is predominantly black but are going quite well: Tanzania, South Africa etc.

Hmmm... The colour of the skin doesn't make a shit of a difference mate. It's just pot luck.