No Petrol Day, 22 Sept

36 public posts in this discussion.

Post 1

Some of you guys would of seen this e-mail *giggles to self* anyways

This might just be e-mail spam, but seems like something that we should try to do and see if it really works.
What do we have to loose?

Quote:
NO PETROL DAY, 22 SEPT....... A GREAT IDEA!!!

IT HAS BEEN CALCULATED THAT IF EVERYONE IN AUSTRALIA DID NOT PURCHASE A
DROP OF PETROL FOR ONE DAY AND ALL AT THE SAME TIME, THE OIL COMPANIES
WOULD CHOKE ON THEIR STOCKPILES.

AT THE SAME TIME IT WOULD HIT THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY WITH A NET LOSS OVER
4.6 BILLION DOLLARS WHICH AFFECTS THE BOTTOM LINES OF THE OIL
COMPANIES.

THEREFORE THURSDAY SEPTEMBER 22nd HAS BEEN FORMALLY DECLARED "STICK IT UP THEIR $#@%" DAY AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION SHOULD NOT BUY A SINGLE
DROP OF PETROL THAT DAY.

THE ONLY WAY THIS CAN BE DONE IS IF YOU FORWARD THIS E-MAIL TO AS MANY
PEOPLE AS YOU CAN AND AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN TO GET THE WORD OUT.

WAITING ON THE GOVERNMENT TO STEP IN AND CONTROL THE PRICES IS NOT GOING

TO HAPPEN. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REDUCTION AND CONTROL IN PRICES THAT
THE ARAB NATIONS PROMISED TWO WEEKS AGO?

REMEMBER ONE THING, NOT ONLY IS THE PRICE OF PETROL GOING UP BUT AT THE
SAME TIME AIRLINES ARE FORCED TO RAISE THEIR PRICES, TRUCKING COMPANIES
ARE FORCED TO RAISE THEIR PRICES WHICH EFFECTS PRICES ON EVERYTHING THAT

IS SHIPPED. THINGS LIKE FOOD, CLOTHING, BUILDING SUPPLIES MEDICAL
SUPPLIES ETC. WHO PAYS IN THE END? WE DO!

WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. IF THEY DON'T GET THE MESSAGE AFTER ONE DAY,
WE WILL DO IT AGAIN AND AGAIN.

SO DO YOUR PART AND SPREAD THE WORD. FORWARD THIS EMAIL TO EVERYONE YOU

KNOW. MARK YOUR CALENDARS AND MAKE SEPTEMBER 22nd A DAY THAT THE
CITIZENS OF AUSTRALIA "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH"

Photography Digital Archiving Project
Research School of Pacific and Asian Studies
The Australian National University
Canberra ACT 0200
Australia
+61 2 6125 8200 (Phone)
+61 2 6125 4917 (Fax)

Post 2

I mean sounds good and all, some will think its stupid, but im not going to buy fuel that day

Post 3

it won't work. i'm sorry but if you need to buy your petrol on the 22nd and you dont, you'll just buy it on the 23rd, which will have the net effect of doing sweet **** all.

Post 4

Exactly.

Even if everyone went out and used public transport for a day... or even a week, it's something that will not last and the oil companies know that as a society we're lazy and prefer the comfort/convenience of our cars.

Post 5

lol I like Dan's (not OD) response better ;)
Post that one up :D

Post 6

the spreading of this e-mail could however entice oil companys or petrol companys to drop their prices on or before the 22nd to make us think its back to reasonable

Post 7

Then Mass fuel buyage :P

Post 8

Quote from Knight Of Nih:
the spreading of this e-mail could however entice oil companys or petrol companys to drop their prices on or before the 22nd to make us think its back to reasonable

only if they're utter morons.

Post 9

lol Knight, it wont work :p
The only thing that might effect it would be no one "driving" for a week or two. Even then dunno.

Post 10

Quote from Jono:
lol I like Dan's (not OD) response better ;)
Post that one up :D

let's not :P that whole thing just needs to be forgotten :P

Post 11

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Post 12

Knight - I've got a whole lot of sickly sweet friendship inspiration emails - can I forward them on to you?

Didn't think so. Mate, it's spam, and in case you didn't know, spam is bloody horrible.

Kill it - don't spread it.

Post 13

i've had that email for Sept 1, Sept 7, Sept 14, Sept 22, Sept 30 and Oct 1st... hope it doesn't continue.

Post 14

Yeah i got that email a few times.. hate it...

Post 15

Quote:
THE ONLY WAY THIS CAN BE DONE IS IF YOU FORWARD THIS E-MAIL TO AS MANY
PEOPLE AS YOU CAN AND AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN TO GET THE WORD OUT.

hrm, that sounds a lil like a virus kinda to me

Post 16

I don't put fuel in my car for 6 days of the week! I must be really screwing the fuel companies there!! Whats the bet that the fuel prices magically go down on the 22nd?

Post 17

its already past september... y bother? its ordinary spam or virus mailing i reckon :(

Post 18

errrr no its still september now. Its the 14th of september to be exact.

Post 19

toasty wins.

babality.

Post 20

why cant there be a government servo that way they can regulate the fuel by setting their own price

i mean the price of petrol per barrel for the companies is cheaper now then when they were charging 110 per litre so all we need is one servo which is as greedy as the rest then the other will all drop their prices to match

Post 21

Quote from phillip:
why cant there be a government servo that way they can regulate the fuel by setting their own price

Possibly for the same reason there shouldnt be a government run telecommunication company, the would only screw it up......

Post 22

Quote from phillip:
i mean the price of petrol per barrel for the companies is cheaper now then when they were charging 110 per litre so all we need is one servo which is as greedy as the rest then the other will all drop their prices to match

Most petrol stations don't actually belong to the oil company. They get to use the brand in exchange for advertising support and fuel availability - it's essentially a franchise arrangement.

However they must still pay the oil companies for fuel. When the next truck rolls up, they pay what they are told to pay - they have no say in the matter. So when the set the price at the pump, they are not paying for the fuel already at the station, they are paying for the next delivery.

Since the price of of any barrel crude oil continues to affect the price at the refinery, at the tanker, at the tank farm and then in the delivery truck, it takes time for drops in prices to affect the servos. In the meantime there is still one or two weeks of expensive fuel coming which they will have to pay for.

The alternative to raising prices to pay for expected price rises from their suppliers is for all the fuel stations to go broke, leaving all of us without fuel.

That is why fuel prices go up immediately when oil does, and that's why they tend to take a week or two to go down.

Post 23

o fuk! my pc date wasnt set doh! my bad, its sep, gawd dammit,i always screw up on the date and time -_-, slap me plz

Post 24

Imagine if this did happen and everyone who normally drives uses public transport. It'd fkn kill the system and people would be scrambling on the roofs of buses :P

Post 25

Nah - knowing typical Australians, nobody would make the effort to take public transport. There would be a huge increase in the amount of sickies taken on that day, however. :-)

Post 26

Learning oil supply and demand eh :) The petrol companies will always be able to charge whatever that want because the oil companies will always be able to charge whatever they want becuase of the OPEC consortium.
If you choose to use petrol for whatever reson in your life you will be dealing with an expense that will continually outgrow your income.

Post 27

Quote from Wortel:
Learning oil supply and demand eh :) The petrol companies will always be able to charge whatever that want because the oil companies will always be able to charge whatever they want becuase of the OPEC consortium.

You realise that OPEC and the companies are not the same thing, don't you?

Prices are going up because there is X oil and Y demand, and Y pwns X. If customer number 1 pays $60 per barrel, why would the oil companies sell to customer 2 for $55? The price has gone up because it has been bid up by buyers, not because the oil companies can control the price.

Post 28

This X oil you speak of this is controlled by the oil producing nations of OPEC. The rest of the world can only ever guess how much real oil reserves they have.

Post 29

Also note, opec can increase production if they want, to drive price down as there will be surplus.

Or they can produce just enough to keep the market somewhat happy, while the price is driven up as there is no surplus being created.

So supply and demand is both affected by the consumer, and the producer.

Post 30

Quote from Frenzy:
Also note, opec can increase production if they want, to drive price down as there will be surplus.

No, OPEC members are at the limits of their production capacity. They have said so many times and this has been independently verified by the oil companies and investors. Iraq is below capacity due to instability, Russia is having political troubles re: oil, Saudi Arabia is maxed out, Venezuala have nationalised their oil and it's going to pot. OPEC can't produce more oil, not for some time.

Post 31

Saudi Arabia arent maxed out, they have 1/4 of the worls oil sitting in reserve.
They can up their production by 1 million barrels a day if they wanted to.

Its true caus tv told me so.

Post 32

It's gotta be true. Them arabs are hoarding it from the rest of us.

Post 33

Please people, take into consideration the effects such actions would have. Oil is a finite resource, the idea of just drilling up more of the stuff to lower the price is short sighted. If the price of fuel is overwhelming, choose to find an alternative. Public transport has its merit in times of need.

Post 34

Quote from Milenko:
Saudi Arabia arent maxed out, they have 1/4 of the worls oil sitting in reserve.
They can up their production by 1 million barrels a day if they wanted to.

Its true caus tv told me so.
THEY TOOK ERR JERBS!!!!

Post 35

i guess im just not cut out to say the word jorb

Post 36

Quote from Milenko:
Saudi Arabia arent maxed out, they have 1/4 of the worls oil sitting in reserve.
They can up their production by 1 million barrels a day if they wanted to.

Its true caus tv told me so.

1 million barrels a day sounds like a lot, it's not that much in the global market. More to the point, it's not sustainable. It's like saying "I'm at 7000 RPM but the dial goes to 8500 RPM!"

Sure, but the rest of the way is redlining it. Something will break and you'll have far fewer barrels per day.

It's in the interest of OPEC to keep oil prices at a lower level than currently: they want their customers to have a healthy economy, not to be thinking about alternatives to oil.